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Old 09-07-2016, 06:56 AM
 
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I know Maine best, as I live here.
Do you?
No, I don't live here. I do know statistics. I do know enough to know I'd rather be in Maine than some of the states I mentioned. I know a few people who lived in Georgia and have moved to Maine, and they love it there.
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Don't live in Maine, so I can't comment on LePage, but these numbers are interesting to me. One of two things will happen from here. People will say, "Look what happened because we voted third party", or they'll say, "Look how many votes we got for a third party!"


I hope it's the latter. I also hope that if the two main parties keep putting up such ridiculous candidates, that more people will 'grow a set' and vote for the person they like, not merely for R or D.
Yes. Look what happened when you vote for a third party candidate in Maine - the third party candidate's presence allowed LePage to get elected with a minority of the vote.
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Old 09-07-2016, 08:07 AM
 
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Perhaps these problems would be more manageable if America joined the rest of the civilized world and implemented a proper social safety net for people? Do you think it is a coincidence that countries with a strong social safety net have the least social problems while dog-eats-dog type societies have rampant social problems?

I agree we need more social safety nets in America. But many on the right do not believe that, probably LePage included.

However, all I was stating was that it is not the minorities causing the drug issues in Maine. It is the white drug addicts causing the drug issues in Maine. Also, I highly doubt that there are more minority drug dealers in Maine versus white dealers. Too often it seems that people see some people get arrested on TV as drug dealers who are black or hispanic and they falsely believe that the majority of drug dealers are black and hispanic when in reality the majority of drug dealers are white just like the majority of drug addicts are white.

IMO we need to get rid of criminalizing addicts and need to legalize drugs and take away the profits of the dealers and treat addiction as a disease instead of just locking people up.
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Old 09-07-2016, 09:38 AM
 
Location: London
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No 2 fingers on a hand are the same.
What if they're on a Muslim hand?
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Old 09-07-2016, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I agree we need more social safety nets in America. But many on the right do not believe that, probably LePage included.

IMO we need to get rid of criminalizing addicts and need to legalize drugs and take away the profits of the dealers and treat addiction as a disease instead of just locking people up.
Seems like Maine takes care of it's own much better then cities like San Francisco.

All these liberal leftist run cities that vote Democratic have virtually no safety net. They raise taxes, but it goes to donors to their campaigns, ivy-league educated consultants who have never met a drug addict or person down on their luck or to administration.

I would take a conservative who calls it like he sees it as opposed to liberals who ignore everything. At least Le Page isn't Mayor Lee in San Francisco who runs a city where many openly use heroin in public.

When it comes down to what counts like a state with a very low violent crime rate, low poverty and low unemployment it seems to like Mr. Page runs a good state.

It seems as though Mr. Page safety net works much better then Leftist-run cities like San Francisco that basically ignore every single social issue.

The open-air drug use in many liberal cities in appaling. The leftist themselves do a big policy speech on treatment and don't follow through and it all goes to consultants and educated experts and not the actual users treatment needs.

I do agree with legalizing medical marijuana but the last thing I want to see is open-air drug use which is what alot of big cities expose the civilized public to with desperate people running trying to get drug money.
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Old 09-07-2016, 03:04 PM
 
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Seems like Maine takes care of it's own much better then cities like San Francisco.

All these liberal leftist run cities that vote Democratic have virtually no safety net. They raise taxes, but it goes to donors to their campaigns, ivy-league educated consultants who have never met a drug addict or person down on their luck or to administration.

I would take a conservative who calls it like he sees it as opposed to liberals who ignore everything. At least Le Page isn't Mayor Lee in San Francisco who runs a city where many openly use heroin in public.

When it comes down to what counts like a state with a very low violent crime rate, low poverty and low unemployment it seems to like Mr. Page runs a good state.

It seems as though Mr. Page safety net works much better then Leftist-run cities like San Francisco that basically ignore every single social issue.

The open-air drug use in many liberal cities in appaling. The leftist themselves do a big policy speech on treatment and don't follow through and it all goes to consultants and educated experts and not the actual users treatment needs.

I do agree with legalizing medical marijuana but the last thing I want to see is open-air drug use which is what alot of big cities offer with desperate people running trying to get drug money.

Not sure why you brought up San Francisco .

I bet Maine wishes it had a city with the economic clout of San Fran. And you are funny if you think that people aren't using heroin in public in Maine.

And FWIW, San Fran's metro area is 7 times larger than the population of the state of Maine in its entirety. You cannot compare a city like San Francisco to Maine. That is a ridiculous thing to even attempt to do.
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Old 09-08-2016, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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I don't see what this has to do with Trump. Let's be honest, there are some wacky people supporting both candidates
The people who support the candidate, have nothing to do with who the candidate is.
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Not sure why you brought up San Francisco .

I bet Maine wishes it had a city with the economic clout of San Fran. And you are funny if you think that people aren't using heroin in public in Maine.

And FWIW, San Fran's metro area is 7 times larger than the population of the state of Maine in its entirety. You cannot compare a city like San Francisco to Maine. That is a ridiculous thing to even attempt to do.
Great way to point out the logical fallacy of a red herring argument.
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