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Old 09-01-2016, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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It would have been very silly of him to make such a ridiculous demand. He's not that stupid.

When he is president though, he will have many more options available to him. I have a feeling, the wall will be quite yuuuuuge, and built by an army of Mexicans. After all, they just love our money sooo much...
I think Trump will use his negotiation skills split it. We pay half, Mexico pays half. Trump will pat himself on the back and the right will praise just how great of a negotiator he is.

 
Old 09-01-2016, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Drumpf lies

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Only total morons want more illegal immigration.


Oh yeah, that would be Dems.
Only total morons would assert that illegal immigration has increased in recent years.

Of course, that's the Pubs.

Border Patrol figures show that apprehensions are only 1/5 of what they were a few years ago. I live 3 miles from the border. It's gotten MUCH better.

I report. You decide.

 
Old 09-01-2016, 07:08 AM
 
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Only total morons would assert that illegal immigration has increased in recent years.

Of course, that's the Pubs.

Border Patrol figures show that apprehensions are only 1/5 of what they were a few years ago. I live 3 miles from the border. It's gotten MUCH better.

I report. You decide.

That's what happens when you literally have the fringe Republican wing of the Republican Party now being represented by the likes of Breitbart. And now that Breitbart runs the Trump campaign, all of their dumbed down and toxic talking points are in full circle.
All the obsession about Islam and illegal immigration is straight out of Breitbart, and Michael Savage
 
Old 09-01-2016, 07:25 AM
 
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There is more than one way to skin a cat. Paying for it, even though are already allotted in Secure Fence act, can be made through many tariffs, business tax breaks, etc etc.. The money to do a fence is something that can be funded via Mexico via business transaction offsets over time. They would lose the money via decisions Trump would make as POTUS..
Doesn't mean they will hand over a check, but...
 
Old 09-01-2016, 07:48 AM
 
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Trump to many is like one of those "Cult Leaders", whom people have become drunk by drinking the belligerence he is spewing. This is the same man, who has issues now surfacing of the models, he hired and played games with their visa status, and emplyed them while at the same time duping them out of their money, basically working them for next to nothing, because he saw their need to try and make it. So he took advantage of them.
We see this is the same man, who has his Trump Branded Products produced in foreign lands. We see this is the same man, who "pro-actively seeks out immigrant temp work" at his resorts, because he does not want to pay American people a living wage to do those jobs, but he wants to charge top dollar for the entertainment services he offers at these venues.

This is the same man, who use "imported building materials" to build his building, and imported materials for the facade, then plays 'shuffle the paper" to avoid paying tax, while at the same time seeking tax concessions, while he bleeds the cash from the company, and hang the banker over the barrel, and push for bankruptcy, to avoid paying the value of the debt he owes. This is the same man who has been a disaster for various contractors, who got pennies on the dollar for their works and some left holding the bag of debts, based on goods and services they provided.

But, its ok, that the "die hard Trump followers" are die hard behind him and the rebel rousing because he functions like the "town loud mouth, that drums up a posse", to go chasing any thing that whims tell him to change today, tomorrow he may send the posse he has formed in a totally different directions after a totally fictitious aim of pursuits. He's knows that if he keeps them off balance, and flip the script, they don't know what the issue is, or which way he will spin it, so they are in suspense, and the drama of suspense, has been a craving worst than an Addict seeking a fix.
He single handed-ly took down the remainder of the Republican system, and exposed them, and publicly vilified them, and then he wants to claim now that the party wants to once again become the party of Lincoln, after so many decades of being the party driven by the ideals of the former "southern democrats" who aspired to confederate ideals and Antebellum programming. The current system of Republican party don't speak and don't know what to do, they can't support him and they can't speak out against him, so they are now under the Trump Spell, and confounded by their own madness.

Tomorrow it will be a different spin, we've seen the debacle of the Mexico visit, and then the twist when he got on the podium, all the vitriol came back, and he is the same belligerent Trump that we saw in the beginning. Yes, this is the same man who used "name calling" because he had a mass of minion's who loved bully talk and name calling, and in doing so, it took down the 16 other republican who had 16 different ideas of madness and no basis of platform other than each one wanted to be dictorial. Likely the best among them was Kaisiac, but they could not stand him, because he did not push bully talk, and he actually had a manner and demeanor, which was not that of a rebel rouser.

The irony of the imagery of Trump in Mexico, and then Trump on the stump in Arizona, was the perfect image of a man talking out of a single mouth, but saying two totally different things.

Geez, the best we can do is thank him for exposing the ignorance among those who are die hard followers, as well as bringing to surface the bigotry that was for so long played out in covert means, it is not overt, and trying again to figure out how to make it again, covert.

It's likely that Barnum and Bailey would have a hard pressed challenge to put on a better Circus Performance.
 
Old 09-01-2016, 07:50 AM
 
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There is more than one way to skin a cat. Paying for it, even though are already allotted in Secure Fence act, can be made through many tariffs, business tax breaks, etc etc.. The money to do a fence is something that can be funded via Mexico via business transaction offsets over time. They would lose the money via decisions Trump would make as POTUS..
Doesn't mean they will hand over a check, but...
I have some river bottom located rotted wood I'd like to sell you a map to, it is excellent for building bridges...
 
Old 09-01-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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Bigotry? What bigotry is involved in wanting our immigration laws respected and enforced?
 
Old 09-01-2016, 08:03 AM
 
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I have some river bottom located rotted wood I'd like to sell you a map to, it is excellent for building bridges...
Wow, did you come up with that all by yourself..
 
Old 09-01-2016, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Bigotry? What bigotry is involved in wanting our immigration laws respected and enforced?
Man, oh man...

That Obama has really enforced those immigration laws.

He's hardcore.

 
Old 09-01-2016, 08:59 AM
 
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Wow, did you come up with that all by yourself..

Actually, I did
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