One promise Obama kept.....8 years,83,000 coal miners lost jobs,400 mines shut down (illegal, cost)

[steven_h]

Originally Posted by Misanthrope83

Here’s one promise Obama kept for 8 years: 83,000 coal miners lost their jobs, 400 mines shut down | BizPac Review

All hail our wonderful president! Nothing like putting people out of work!

One of the few promises he kept... the irony is that he warned us even before he became a JUNIOR Senator.

Abject failure of a President, the country is still in a recession; mostly it has been the wealthy who have benefited by his policies.

Come meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Now the progressives want to elect a sick queen at all our peril.

When ideology trumps common sense, you get screwed (Hitler, Mussolini, Franco... etc.)

[Misanthrope83]

Originally Posted by desertdetroiter

So.

If I remember right, when the auto manufacturers were on their deathbed, right wingers said "let 'em go. Don't bail 'em out. They'll get bought out by more solvent ownership."

When I said "what about all those jobs," Repubs said "no big deal...they're getting paid too much anyway."

So use the same principle now with the coal miners.

Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry

sigh....It's not the same principle.
Let those companies fail and the profitable parts will be purchased by other companies. That's how it works.
Nothing to do with forcing a business to close because of regulations.

Not a good try even by your low standards.

Remember each side said "our bailouts will work, yours won't". They were both wrong.

Thank you for explaining that to the democrat.

[branDcalf]

Pretty easy for Obama to keep that promise. The wheels were set in motion back in the Bush years. That's when a good bit of the legislation that impacted mining went into place.

Obama is no friend of mining or the West, but neither are most politicians. No new money to be made.

And, no, coal is NOT doing better "out West."

[BentBow]

Originally Posted by Misanthrope83

Here’s one promise Obama kept for 8 years: 83,000 coal miners lost their jobs, 400 mines shut down | BizPac Review

All hail our wonderful president! Nothing like putting people out of work!

You think these people are voting Hillary.

[EDnurse]

Originally Posted by southward bound

Not the same thing. Miners don't get "too much".

Or do you think they do??

Miners never got too much, except black lung. So, I fail to understand the nostalgia for coal jobs and all the whining over regulations.

Coal was never any good

[my54ford]

Originally Posted by desertdetroiter

I hear that coal production is doing better in the western states.

Better then back East. We get PRB coal out of Wyoming and Montana. Most of the workers in our #1 source are American Indian...

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry

sigh....It's not the same principle.
Let those companies fail and the profitable parts will be purchased by other companies. That's how it works.
Nothing to do with forcing a business to close because of regulations.

Not a good try even by your low standards.

Remember each side said "our bailouts will work, yours won't". They were both wrong.

Blame natural gas, cheap oil and the Bakken Fields for the demise of coal, it's 2016 not 1920. You give Obama too much credit, the world changed and they did not.


It's a good comparison because there is still a need for cars, not so much for coal.

[thecoalman]

Originally Posted by desertdetroiter

So.

If I remember right, when the auto manufacturers were on their deathbed, right wingers said "let 'em go. Don't bail 'em out. They'll get bought out by more solvent ownership."

When I said "what about all those jobs," Repubs said "no big deal...they're getting paid too much anyway."

So use the same principle now with the coal miners.

The auto industry wasn't suffering in part because of current and potential government regulations.

[my54ford]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

Blame natural gas, cheap oil and the Bakken Fields for the demise of coal, it's 2016 not 1920. You give Obama too much credit, the world changed and they did not.


It's a good comparison because there is still a need for cars, not so much for coal.

Coals Demise is driven by regulation driveing operating cost up and up. We are projecting continued use for at least 50yrs....

[Dane_in_LA]

Cheap natural gas had nothing to do with it. Nothing at all.