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Old 09-08-2016, 08:32 AM
 
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Peace through strength is a great proven deterrent..
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:35 AM
 
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Which is why Obama is proposing we spend 1 trillion to upgrade our nuclear force. So, you support Obama in this?
Then why is it he has now upgraded our military equipment? If he is so for spending 1 trillion to upgrade nukes why not humvees and weapons and planes?
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:39 AM
 
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Peace through strength is a great proven deterrent..
Not for people with nothing to lose.
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:40 AM
 
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Yeah anyone who thinks trump is the peace prez is sadly mistaken.

Compared to the rest of the field he was. The other Republicans did not just want a strong military , they were itching to use it.

Better to have a Republicans in office on this issue. anyway. The Democrats will oppose any aggressive policy, more so anyway. . When a Democrat is in office its OK to engage in loving warfare and the Republican neocons never pass up an opportunity to blast away and start gun running. The problem with the Republicans is a lot of Democrats will back any socialist policy from a Republican president. Prescription drugs for example by Bush was a piece of cake.
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:50 AM
 
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We all saw how well it worked the last time a Republican war monger dramatically increased military spending and cut taxes at the same time. I can't believe the number of people that still fall for the Rah Rah Murica F Yeah BS every four years.


I have just resigned myself to the fact that our government and many Americans have become permanently addicted to war. We will always be at war with Eastasia, Eurasia or whoever the latest boogeyman du jour happens to be.

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Old 09-08-2016, 08:56 AM
 
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No one has ever cut taxes, without increasing somewhere else....
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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We all saw how well it worked the last time a Republican war monger dramatically increased military spending and cut taxes at the same time.
And we all saw Obama get us into Libya and Syria. The Russians by exposing the gas hoax was the only thing that kept Obama out of Syria. We are also gun running in Ukraine while Biden son is making gas deals in Ukraine. It was Clinton that bomb Serbia and democrats that went in to carpetbag Kosovo taking over thier government protected monopolies and natural resources...

Yeah we know about you too.
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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Walk softly and carry a big stick.
Unlike President Obama and Hillary who carries a limp stick.


Peace through strength is what Trump has said.


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Peace through strength is a great proven deterrent..
I don't think some people understand this. They like the if we are nice to them they will never attack us. We found out on 9/11 this is not the case.

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Old 09-08-2016, 10:22 AM
 
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You must not keep up with current news.

The Military budget has been cut to the lowest level in many decades, and it has gotten to the point where "bone yard" planes are being refurbished and put back into service in order to meet the military's needs.

It has also been cut to the point that military experts are saying we could not fight a war on more than one front, if we had to.

Trump has vowed to restore the military. This isn't a "build up." It is restoration, and it is urgently needed.

But I realize you won't agree, because you are an extreme Leftist. It is people of your ilk that have put us in the weak position we are now in.

My freedom and security depend on a strong military. I resent people like you who would sell us out and give our country over to our enemies.
Your freedom and security rely upon leadership with some freak'n common sense not acceding to influence from the corporate entities like Haliburton et-al!

Learning nothing from your mistakes and simply building a bigger and better military to combat the results of those stupid misadventures is a Military Industrial Complex's wet dream and a taxpayer's worst nightmare.

Grow up and stop with all of this childish fearmongering.

By the by; this was just undergoing sea trials and is anything but exemplar of a "weak military" or "degraded out of date piece of equipment":

Navy's Most Advanced Warship, USS Zumwalt Departs Bath Iron Works
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:47 AM
 
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Unlike President Obama and Hillary who carries a limp stick.


Peace through strength is what Trump has said.



I don't think some people understand this. They like the if we are nice to them they will never attack us. We found out on 9/11 this is not the case.
And just how could your "big stick" have prevented those allied SAUDI funded azzhats being given visas, allowed to train in a Florida flight school as pilots and suicide themselves to strike a blow from within your own country?

I don't think some people understand you cannot frighten the types of enemy you currently face by wielding a big stick WITHOUT actually using it. Once used, retaliation can be something the likes of which you've never imagined.

You gonna design a big stick that will cause your corporate entities running your country and making oil profits up the whazoo, to confront Saudi duplicity? What's that big stick look like; a divining rod to detect bullcrap from those you've held in trust and overlooked because your leaders were in bed with them?

You still gonna give guys like Cheney a blank cheque to start wars for profits, killing thousands of your best and brightest 'cause he panders to the 'beast with a big stick' syndrome among you?

I gotta see how having more planes, tanks and ships is gonna frighten that sheepherder being promised 72 virgins, whose innocent family you bombed the crap out of five years ago in some desert or another, from going down in the NYC subway and blowing himself up on a Christmas shopping day.

You don't get it at all. Those most endowed with the obsession to do you harm are not the least bit afraid of your military or your Trumpesque bellicosity, they're inured to it now as is the rest of the planet.

Designing weaponry and developing the image of not being afraid to use it does nothing to sway those who don't have the same regard for human life.

They don't shive-a-git about your big sticks and you cannot lay waste to half the planet in an oxymoronic fit of fear and insecurity.

Those days of people who can do you immeasurable harm having the common sense to refrain from doing so due to subsequent consequences are OVER and GONE forever.
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