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Old 09-08-2016, 09:47 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Its amazing how many countries offer their students literally free education...an educated populace goes to work and each generation is more educated than the last. Disgusting to think you must pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to get an education. Its not enough to make me vote for Clinton but I agree we need a different system put in place. I will push my kids to look at Europe for college.
Do they suffer from the same amount of legal and illegal immigration that put a burden our resources? I think not.
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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More "Tax and Bribe" politics.
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Best government money can buy.
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:57 PM
 
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And if I'm elected class president, we will have nickel coke machines outside each classroom, free pizzas on Fridays, big screen televisions in the lunch room, school days will be two hours shorter and no homework.
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Student debt: Where do the candidates stand? | Local News | ncnewsonline.com

Clinton has a plan to address the student debt crisis. Her new plan is no tuition at public universities for families up to $125,000 by 2021 and she also plans to have a 10% cap.

The plan would cost the federal government only $500 billion dollars over 10 years.
""only"" 1/2 trillion over 10 years....

hmmm Hitlery lying again

average cost for a 4 year degree at a public college.......21,000

average amount of college students at public colleges annually:.... 20.5 million students

that's nearly 1/2 trillion ($430,500,000,000) ANNUALLY




again Hitlery lies
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Do they suffer from the same amount of legal and illegal immigration that put a burden our resources? I think not.
Germany does. Sweden does. Hell even Mexico and Brazil offer it!
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:08 PM
 
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Germany does. Sweden does. Hell even Mexico and Brazil offer it!
And who pays for it?
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:27 PM
 
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Its amazing how many countries offer their students literally free education...an educated populace goes to work and each generation is more educated than the last. Disgusting to think you must pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to get an education. Its not enough to make me vote for Clinton but I agree we need a different system put in place. I will push my kids to look at Europe for college.
"Literally Free" means no one has to pay. That would be great, in reality "free" means subsidized by someone else. That's less great when you're the someone else.

The problem in the US is the solution to out of control expenses is to throw more money at the broken system. Universal health care will not work until meaningful reforms control costs. Same goes for education.
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Old 09-09-2016, 04:24 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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The Federal gov't currently subsides the US K-12 system to the tune of ~$600B per year where the State and Local gov'ts also pay their part thus making that free. Based on those costs, the $500B number Clinton came out with is really not that far out of range as it most likely includes Federal grants that are already in existence. Since the Pell grant already covers upwards of $6000 per year, then a few thousand more is not going to make that much of a difference. But based on the incomes she listed the gov't would be giving out Federal student loans and then forgiving them X amount of years later. If the student lives at home and is local to the schools then it's most likely doable. Since most don't have local schools, then loans again come back into play to cover the expenses in addition to tuition.


http://www2.census.gov/govs/school/11f33pub.pdf
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Old 09-09-2016, 05:19 AM
 
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Student debt: Where do the candidates stand? | Local News | ncnewsonline.com

Clinton has a plan to address the student debt crisis. Her new plan is no tuition at public universities for families up to $125,000 by 2021 and she also plans to have a 10% cap.

The plan would cost the federal government only $500 billion dollars over 10 years.
No, the government does not have a job.
It will cost American taxpayers $500 billion over 10 years.
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Old 09-09-2016, 05:55 AM
Status: "Let's replace the puppet show with actual leadership." (set 5 days ago)
 
Location: Suburban Dallas
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Student debt: Where do the candidates stand? | Local News | ncnewsonline.com

Clinton has a plan to address the student debt crisis. Her new plan is no tuition at public universities for families up to $125,000 by 2021 and she also plans to have a 10% cap.

The plan would cost the federal government only $500 billion dollars over 10 years.

All these carrots that Hillary is dangling are all just traps. This scam is no exception. Empty promises that, in the end, will never be furnished.

It's all a trap just so people can vote for her and wind up getting completely controlled by her if she somehow gets elected.

Besides, how are liberals for education anyway if they are against jobs?
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