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If this incredibly simplistic world view was accurate, there would be very few workers making above poverty level wages. But that isn't happening, is it?
Too simplistic, yes, but also a bit too true for a few too many...
Some 26.2% of blacks were in poverty in 2014 and 23.6% of Hispanics, essentially unchanged from a year earlier. For whites, the rate was 10.1%.
More than 1 in 5 American children were in poverty, essentially unchanged from a year earlier.
But of course these folks have chosen poverty, even the children, so let them suffer the consequences of those choices. Let's also cut social services and get back to making America great again!
Um... I'm wealthy enough to have shuttered my business and retire early. My grown kids have already graduated from highly ranked universities, have jobs, and are self-supporting. So the problem with my position on politics is what?
Exactly.
What, exactly, does our own personal experience have to do with the right or wrong of our opinion? I'm at a loss how to make sense of this sort of rationale. Seems we have very similar experience, but we strongly disagree as to cause/effect regarding most matters of public policy. How can that be given our similar experience?
Is this TOO what you are struggling to understand?
Obviously, personal anecdotes are not necessarily reality for most Americans statistically speaking. How your kids are doing and why is really no more substantiation for your opinions than any of the rest of your personal sense about things. Millions of kids very likely had it much more difficult to grow up and succeed as compared to your kids. It is the statistics (if not the obvious) that matters when it comes to these issues, not your personal experience.
I don't know why I bother with this, except that I keep wondering how you can be serious...
If someone were underpaid, why would they stay at that job, instead of getting a job where they would be paid what they're worth?
If your moniker suggests some further education in this arena, I'm a little surprised by your question, but having once owned an employment agency, I can tell you that the ability for many to simply get a better job where they are paid more than the minimum is a real challenge for millions of people. What they are "worth" is not a function of how hard they work, but what skills they have that are in demand. Millions of people do not have those types of skills, because they have "chosen" to be poorly skilled (according to some anyway)...
Again, "fair" is not really the issue when it comes to tax or spend policy. You might as well focus on whether it is fair someone be born beautiful, or smart, or disabled, or American. Good luck with that...
Only makes sense that those groups most likely to experience poverty will be the same people who utilize programs intended to mitigate the hardships of poverty. No surprise here for me anyway...
Show me anyone who would "choose" to be born a minority in this country as opposed to white, given the odds one will enjoy better than average economic standing, and I will show you someone who doesn't understand these numbers or cause/effect in the least. Hint: racism has been a large part of the cause and has had quite an effect, along with a good many other complex factors that most people prefer to simply ignore.
And/or spend a whole lot more on transfer programs..., remember?
"They spend a whole lot more on transfer programs, education and health services, and other initiatives that are redistributive in impact."
Let's at least TRY to avoid that very selective focus for the sake of better understanding in general, shall we?
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