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Old 09-15-2016, 11:29 AM
 
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It depends on major too.
I recall a study shows engineers tend to be conservative. However most of the top universities in America are not the best in engineering: Harvard, Yale, Princeton...
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Old 09-15-2016, 11:31 AM
 
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The effort by Progressives to take over the education system has been going on for nearly 100 years. Read up on The Frankfurt School. After WW1 European adherents of the (Marxist) Frankfurt School came to the US with the express purpose of implementing a Fabian style takeover of our system. This was a multi-pronged approach involving infiltrating the education, political and media pillars of society.

They have largely succeeded.
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Old 09-15-2016, 11:34 AM
 
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I agree. The discovery of low salt Matzos Balls was a technological breakthrough.
The Pentium processor was designed in Israel. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of the technological contributions from Israel.
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Old 09-15-2016, 11:41 AM
 
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That's a bunch of crap. There are those that are part time professors that also do. There are plenty of full time professors that earn more then those that do. Most people follow the money.
Which is not to mention that fact that there are some very knowledgeable people out there who are very bad at teaching, proving that being an effective teacher is a skill in its own right.
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Old 09-15-2016, 11:44 AM
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Libertarianism has always had strong support from students because they generally come from strong dictatorial (parent-child) relationships and they like their new found status and freedom. Professors played into this easily when the liberals incorporated a fairly libertarian playbook. However, that has changed quite a bit, in fact it is the conservatives that have more of a libertarian agenda than the liberals but the liberals have not seemed to notice. It is the democrats that have regulated everything under the sun and as long as they can convince the liberals that it is for their own good, the liberals don't seem to mind. It is the democrats that are pushing toward socialism and as long as the democrats can show that it will hurt the conservatives more than the liberals, the liberals don't seem to mind.

With the push to put everyone in college, colleges are flourishing. Professors love it. Tuitions are skyrocketing. Money is just flowing like crazy into colleges and universities. The democrats support putting everyone into college so professors support democrats. This has been going on for 20+ years. Now with free college for all, another democratic party edict that apparently no civilized society can live without, tuitions will rise even more. All universities and colleges will naturally support any party that pushes for that.

However, I think students are starting to push back. Millennials are getting weary of being lied to and are not seeing the results they were promised. So while professors might be telling them republicans are horrible and evil, students may be thinking on their own.
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Old 09-15-2016, 11:46 AM
 
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Most people seem to be misinformed about what terms like "liberal" and "conservative" even mean. Many are so ignorant they actually equate modern Democrats with being liberal (they aren't) and modern Republicans with being conservative (they most definitely the hell are NOT.)

I do believe in a large number of campuses there is a lot of what you'd call "liberal" rhetoric and discourse.

Ideally, professors are there to help students learn HOW to think, and think independently and critically--not WHAT to think. Unfortunately, this is not always what actually happens.

I do think, too, there is some truth to the idea of colleges and universities being insulated in ways from "the real world" although when I went to college, I and most of my friends still held jobs off-campus. My entire life didn't revolve around "University World."

All that said, only speaking for myself, I feel the ways in which going to college may have helped me develop personal ideologies which many might think of as liberal or progressive (though I don't feel I can accurately be labeled those things in political terms, really...I hold many views which would be considered traditionally conservative: fiscal conservative certainly...I am also a big 2nd Amendment guy, but I digress) is simply opening my mind to information and knowledge I didn't have previously and which, without college, I may not have stumbled onto.

I'm not what you'd call a globalist (nor a nationalist per se) but just learning things about history, the arts (including art history as well) and certainly learning about other cultures both ancient and modern, coupled with more tangible things like mathematics and science, I feel made me well-rounded and more accepting of and curious about people different from me and things outside my normal sphere.

It definitely does not take attending a university or obtaining a degree to find your way to those things, and I don't at all believe that 4 or 8 or 10 years of college necessarily makes anyone brighter or more intelligent than those who never go to college, but I appreciate having been exposed to so many different things and I was lucky in that my professors typically did encourage me to think for myself.

I worked on my bachelor's degree back 1986-1990, though. Things have changed a great deal since then, I am sure.
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Old 09-15-2016, 11:50 AM
 
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It depends on major too.
I recall a study shows engineers tend to be conservative. However most of the top universities in America are not the best in engineering: Harvard, Yale, Princeton...
Among engineers, there are 71 Democrats for every 29 Republicans.

Democratic vs. Republican occupations

Are MIT and Cal Tech not "top" schools?
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Old 09-15-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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The effort by Progressives to take over the education system has been going on for nearly 100 years. Read up on The Frankfurt School. After WW1 European adherents of the (Marxist) Frankfurt School came to the US with the express purpose of implementing a Fabian style takeover of our system. This was a multi-pronged approach involving infiltrating the education, political and media pillars of society.

They have largely succeeded.
The way to infiltrate the Ivy League and other elite schools is by being academically successful. So are liberals just better at being academically successful than conservatives?
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Old 09-15-2016, 12:02 PM
 
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Cal Tech is mostly liberals.

Study: Liberal Political Climate At Cal Tech « CBS Los Angeles
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Old 09-15-2016, 12:09 PM
 
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The way to infiltrate the Ivy League and other elite schools is by being academically successful. So are liberals just better at being academically successful than conservatives?
No, that's nonsense. Leftists have largely succeeded in taking over the education system because they have leveraged unions, huge union cash and sympathetic political entities of all kinds to get what they want. That type of activity generally isn't in the DNA of conservatives. They don't think like collectivists. It has nothing whatsoever to do with 'academic success'. The Socialist program in universities is a political movement, not an academic movement. It's success is predicated on political power, not academic acumen. If they were really academically superior then one wonders how they've somehow managed to produce an army of subliterate college students with big mouths and closed minds.
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