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My point was, you say you don't side with a group condemning police actions and then condemn police actions.
Why is it wrong for them but not you?
I don't side with BLM, or others that kill police just because they are police. I happen to agree that police get away with murder because the system is crooked, and allows them to do whatever they want. Just because I agree with them on one point- don't paint me as being the same as them on all their views.
Of course they were visible. He wasn't reaching into his pocket or into his waistband. In no way did his actions do anything to make the cops believe he had a weapon.
Strange that an officer tasered him and the other officer shot him at about the same time.
No, they were not visible. Try watching the video without your biased blinders on. He was tasered and shot at the same time because that was the instant his hand went out of view apparently reaching for something. Good shoot.
I do not believe police should have to see a gun before shooting someone- that might be too late. However, I also do not believe in shooting someone with their hands up, nor do I believe that wearing a police uniform gives somebody the right to murder innocents, and get away with it- which they do.
Look at the helicopter video.
Was his right hand up or down when he was shot or do you not know?
His hand clearly drops by his waste, but we don't know if this was before, after or during the tazed or the shot.
It is clear the man is behaving irrationally in the video. Add in that he somehow broke down on the wrong side of the road. How do you break down on the wrong side of the road?
I am only 98% sure.
It was a good shoot.
You must be watching a different video.
There is nothing irrational about his behavior in the video I watched.
As for where he broke down, there are lots of situations where you break down on the wrong side of the road. My parents had a brand-new Edge a couple of years ago that just died in heavy traffic in Denver. No warning, no sputtering. Driving along, and suddenly, no power. It happens.
I think this shooting was an overreaction, not a good shoot at all.
It is clear the man is behaving irrationally in the video.
Walking to ones car isn't irrational. Your statement is.
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Add in that he somehow broke down on the wrong side of the road. How do you break down on the wrong side of the road?
That's where his car stopped. We don't know if he stopped it there or it died. Likely he was trying to pull off to the left away from the guard rail and the creek, where there is more room. Ever had a cars engine stop running? Easy or hard to steer?
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I am only 98% sure.
Your judgement is 98% off.
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It was a good shoot.
The officers lives were in no way threatened. The only reason to shoot at someone is in defense of life or property.
Exactly why was he being held at gunpoint when his car broke down? Hmm? Why? I hope that's the first question they ask in what will be the most pointless investigation where the officer will probably receive an award for killing a black man in Oklahoma. "Why did you point a gun at the man whose car broke down?" "He was black." "Good enough for me, investigation concluded."
One thing that perplexes me is why his vehicle is over the center line. Usually when a vehicle breaks down, it is pulled to the shoulder of the road. Also, why did the man walk away from the police?
There is nothing irrational about his behavior in the video I watched.
As for where he broke down, there are lots of situations where you break down on the wrong side of the road. My parents had a brand-new Edge a couple of years ago that just died in heavy traffic in Denver. No warning, no sputtering. Driving along, and suddenly, no power. It happens.
I think this shooting was an overreaction, not a good shoot at all.
IF (and for those who don't know what IF means, look it up) he was ordered to the ground by police aiming a gun at him but kept walking to the car, I'd call that irrational.
You can shoot them if you cannot see there hands and they are disobeying that order.
No.
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What you have is someone with a previous conviction for resisting arrest, broke down on the wrong side of the road, disobeying orders and lowering his hands. You do not know in that split second if he is armed.
Everyone can clearly see his hands in the air. Why you want to do this is beyond me.
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