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Old 09-25-2016, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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^^ "Drumpf" ... so immature. but hey if that's all you got lol
Well, we all can't rise to level of: "Hillary barking. arff arff." Let's see...who posted that?
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Old 09-25-2016, 06:48 PM
 
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So many dirty people who view littering as a huge virtue......or that is what it seems like.

So-called small things say so much about the citizenry and a country as a whole. So many bloated and piggish Familes.............gorging at the Golden Corral 4 times a week, with their already fat little kids, LMFAO. Entitled groups and people who blame everyone else for their problems.....truly pathetic.

Once civility and decency starts going out the window......society-as-a-whole is going down the toilet.

All the bumbling and stumbling military-globetrotting the USA has done since the end of WW2....that is beyond terribletastic.
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Old 09-25-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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Why do you think Trump attracts such large crowds? Why do you think he won the primaries? Political correctness is a disease.

Why do you think Trump attracts such large crowds?
Because there are a lot of people that have been brainwashed into actually believing that America isn't great.

Why do you think he won the primaries?
Because he learned a long time ago how to manipulate an audience; and now he is applying those skills to manipulate an electorate. He's very skilled at morphing into any form in order to garner any vote that is fluttering in the breeze.

Political correctness is a disease.
You are absolutely correct about that. We tiptoe around the fact that essentially, Trump's platform is authoritarian bordering on fascist. But we can't say that - might hurt some feelings.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:34 AM
 
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America isn't trying to solve problems the way we once did. Almost a trillion dollars was spent on the barely remembered stimulus after the 2008 crash. What do we have to show for almost a thousand billion dollars spent? We could have had a high speed rail built all along the east coast. We could have had massive infrastructure improvements. But instead, the money was squandered on pet projects and social programs with little lasting results.

During the first mission to the moon, there were large protests against the mission. Many believed that going to the moon was a waste of money and that the money should be spent on the poor. So now, our society has flipped and those with the mindset against us going to the moon are in charge.
MINDSET

Seems whatever we feel or believe is mostly a function of mindset...

One problem America needed to fix just recently was that Great Recession, and we got through that. A good thing too or all these complaints about now vs "the good old days" would seem even more whiney. Then too there was the problem of people who could not access health care due to pre-existing conditions. Took some doing to fix that as well.

Like I commented before, we had problems back when, we have problems now, and we will always have problems going forward. The history of Man and/or the human condition has always been about change and progress with obvious challenges and set-backs along the way. I'll take today, for example, over those days before and during the world wars when our body counts were well beyond anything we've had to deal with more recently. Sometimes "fixing" problems, as some people think we should, is not really what we should be doing at all, like we learned with Vietnam and Iraq.

"Is the glass half full or is it half empty?"

Are we lucky to be Americans or damned? I think surely the former, but people have a very hard time appreciating what there is to be appreciated and a far easier time complaining about all there is to always complain about.

Again, a matter of perspective, and/or mindset, and both seem to be largely a function of age for every generation. The old folks always recalling what they knew and loved best about their good old days while the young are trying to begin theirs. Maybe this generation gap is widening just like the gap between rich and poor, and maybe people are just never really happy with their lot in life. Is that life in general or one's own doing?

Again, I suppose it depends on who you ask, all a matter of perspective and mindset as well...
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Old 09-27-2016, 05:45 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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...that liberated Europe?
...that had a major part in defeating Nazi Germany?
...that liberated the Philippines and china?
...that sacrificed its sons and daughters to rescue the world?

Still the country of heros? Or has it become a place full of cowards and people of no scruples?
No; after all, that America was much less progressive than today's America is.
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Old 09-27-2016, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yrFj-Vc-Og
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Old 09-27-2016, 06:36 PM
 
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...that liberated Europe?
...that had a major part in defeating Nazi Germany?
...that liberated the Philippines and china?
...that sacrificed its sons and daughters to rescue the world?

Still the country of heros? Or has it become a place full of cowards and people of no scruples?
No.

That America was 90% white.

Just look at the WWII coming home videos.

Nothing but a sea of whiteness.
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:02 AM
 
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No.

That America was 90% white.

Just look at the WWII coming home videos.

Nothing but a sea of whiteness.
In all fairness, it does not matter the color of the skin or who is majority then or now. What matters is the quality of life for all in general and no doubt that quality is not all that good for too many Americans today, or there probably wouldn't be so much discontent. That may not be the fault of our government, however, certainly not entirely or perhaps not even mostly.

Asked before and I wonder still..., just what would a "great" America look like?

A much lower percentage of people in poverty? Far more people with access to quality health care, better education, opportunity? Far less crime? More diversity, tolerance and acceptance?

I'm sure we could all agree as to some of these goals or objectives, but how to get there?

That's the tricky part...

At least in these regards, we might better measure whether we have made progress over time (or not). More importantly, we might better focus on what more/better needs to be done going forward, because this is a work-in-progress that literally never ends, generation after generation.
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Old 09-28-2016, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Why do you think Trump attracts such large crowds?
...
Because "Hee Haw" is no longer on television.
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