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And I thought this dude was smart and somewhat of a reformer...
Sounds like he still is to me.
Israel is an eternal fire under that burns Muslim hearts, but whenever Israel has come to peace with their Palestinians, that fire has always damped down to only a smoldering ember.
Tensions between Palestine and Israel have been tense ever since the early 2000s, but there have been long periods when both sides were peaceable, if not friendly, and a return to those earlier times would work as well no as it did then to de-escalate the present high tension that exists.
Those tensions caused the rise of Wahabism, the Muslim equivalent of our extreme Christianity, in Saudi Arabia, one of our oldest allies and the nation that is the most Muslim conservative of them all. The Wahabis are now so powerful that they threaten the Saudi royalty's existence, so the possibility of the Saudis and the Israelis coming to terms, however reluctant they may be, may become possible.
If that happens, they the Saudi princes could force the financiers who built all those missionary mosques that were allows to fester throughout the middle east to quit their support. And with no Saudi money to back them up, groups like ISIS cannot last for very long.
Egypt is a good possibility as a broker for peace. It has the largest population in the middle east, where numbers always end up counting the most, but getting them all to the table will be a very difficult and delicate matter, with no guarantees. For sure, only the nations there can do it now, and there is no single Muslim nation that's strong enough alone to get the job done.
If you think our refugee problem is bad, consider theirs. Countries like Jordan, that have no oil, are already hard pressed by the flood of refugees, and the longer the refugee camps exist, the more they will fester as hotbeds of extremism. Those who have nothing left to lose but their anger always hold on hardest to it.
“We have a a real opportunity, to write a bright page in the history of our region to move toward peace,” Sisi said.
In the same way that Israel made peace with Egypt in 1978, it should now end its conflict with the Palestinians, Sisi said.
“The Egyptian experience is wonderful and unique and can be repeated by solving the problem of the Palestinians.” Sisi said.
“Establish a Palestinian state side-by-side the Israeli state” that preserves peace and security for both peoples, Sisi said.
Now let's ask Egypt that while Israel has built a fence to separate themselves from Gaza, Egypt has built a barrier with Gaza that is taller and deeper than anywhere in Israel. Let's ask Egypt about the moat they created with their border with Gaza, yet Israel has not. Let's ask Egypt about how rare they open their border with Gaza, Yet Israels is open nearly daily.
Sisi shouldn't claim for Israel to do something that Egypt has refused to do all the way back to Sadat.
Let them do what they want and let's get our money and troops out of there completely.
There are no US troops in Egypt, Jordan or Israel, thus that discussion is off topic for this thread. What Egypt, Jordan and Israel get as funding is also not part of this thread and thus is also off topic for this thread. If you have something to add that is related to the topic of this thread then add it. Otherwise you have other threads to play in that do cover your topics.
There are no US troops in Egypt, Jordan or Israel, thus that discussion is off topic for this thread. What Egypt, Jordan and Israel get as funding is also not part of this thread and thus is also off topic for this thread. If you have something to add that is related to the topic of this thread then add it. Otherwise you have other threads to play in that do cover your topics.
Curious you believe our military and monetary presence in the Middle East is irellevent to any peace process or proposal.
Denial just ain't a river in Egypt.
Curious you believe our military and monetary presence in the Middle East is irrelevant to any peace process or proposal.
Denial just ain't a river in Egypt.
There are no US troops in Egypt, Jordan or Israel. Where they are other than these three countries has nothing to do with this thread. Monetary presence is not mentioned in the OP and has nothing to do with this thread. As long as Hamas and Fatah (PLO) have leadership roles, there will never be Peace in this area. There have been enough years of talk for close to 50 years. Israel has taken the gloves off and will respond harshly to all further attacks.
There are no US troops in Egypt, Jordan or Israel, thus that discussion is off topic for this thread. What Egypt, Jordan and Israel get as funding is also not part of this thread and thus is also off topic for this thread. If you have something to add that is related to the topic of this thread then add it. Otherwise you have other threads to play in that do cover your topics.
I think this is off topic, too, but you are mistaken when you say there are no US troops in Jordan. We absolutely do have small detachments stationed in Jordan to help guard the border with Syria. In fact, they waged an attack against ISIS from within Jordan's borders for the first time this past spring. I do not know whether they have run subsequent missions from Jordan since then. Additionally, the US runs a commando training camp there. From what I have heard, it is located somewhere in the south around Wadi Rum.
When the Palestinians will cease their demand to resettle 5 millions descendants of "refuges" in Israel please wake me up.
While I may not agree with your choice to put quotes around the word refugees, I do have to agree with you on the bottom line. While of course Palestinians are individuals with widely differing opinions, I don't see the majority being OK with giving up the right of return. Sisi would have to have way more influence than he does to accomplish that. Also, the Palestinians I know do not trust anyone who has had a hand in the peace process, honestly. Not the Israelis, not the Americans, not the Jordanians, and not the Egyptians.
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