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Our police deal with violent offenders every day without killing them. Yes, I do understand our police rarely come across someone with a gun, but, as I say, they come across a lot of dangerous people. They manage to arrest them, without killing them. Even before tasers, they arrested, without killing offenders. Is it all about training?
I'm talking about when our police shoot and kill the thugs who are trying to kill the cops.
We have a culture where cops are shot at more than in England; therefore, we are going to have more thugs justifiably put down.
I wasn't addressing the police abuses because English Dave wasn't specifying those.
No, I wasn't talking about police abuse in America. I am just curious why people get shot, when for instance they have a knife. Our police have to deal with this sort of thing, and they don't have guns to end the situation. Yet, the people still get arrested, and transported to jail alive.
This is my point........ do police use a gun, to end a dangerous situation, when other means are possible. I don't of course mean thugs armed with guns. No one can expect police to try and deal with that without using their own weapons.
I do understand your police are nervous, especially of people who won't obey instructions, and sometimes move quickly, or put their hands near pockets. But, when it's a nutter with a knife, sometimes, it appears a gun is the first resort, instead of the last.
No, I wasn't talking about police abuse in America. I am just curious why people get shot, when for instance they have a knife. Our police have to deal with this sort of thing, and they don't have guns to end the situation. Yet, the people still get arrested, and transported to jail alive.
This is my point........ do police use a gun, to end a dangerous situation, when other means are possible. I don't of course mean thugs armed with guns. No one can expect police to try and deal with that without using their own weapons.
I do understand your police are nervous, especially of people who won't obey instructions, and sometimes move quickly, or put their hands near pockets. But, when it's a nutter with a knife, sometimes, it appears a gun is the first resort, instead of the last.
I for one don't want our police force engaging in hand-to-hand combat with machete wielders. I want the armed perpetrator taken down as swiftly as possible. If that means killing him, then kill him. Seldom are there enough cops at one call to do what the UK bunch did. Until they actually took him under arrest, the public was in serious danger. None of those cops could have stopped him had he run through their ranks and started chopping away at citizens.
I for one don't want our police force engaging in hand-to-hand combat with machete wielders. I want the armed perpetrator taken down as swiftly as possible. If that means killing him, then kill him. Seldom are there enough cops at one call to do what the UK bunch did. Until they actually took him under arrest, the public was in serious danger. None of those cops could have stopped him had he run through their ranks and started chopping away at citizens.
Our police don't hunt in packs......... They're just like yours, two in a car normally. I'm not sure why they didn't taser him. Maybe nobody had one with them. If he had tried to move away from the police, to attack the public, then I am sure they would have found a way to deal with him, in those circumstances. They always do, and very few people in this country die at the hands of the police.
Our police don't hunt in packs......... They're just like yours, two in a car normally. I'm not sure why they didn't taser him. Maybe nobody had one with them. If he had tried to move away from the police, to attack the public, then I am sure they would have found a way to deal with him, in those circumstances. They always do, and very few people in this country die at the hands of the police.
I believe our violent crime rate is something like five times higher than yours. We have a more violent culture. Combine this with our much greater population and you'll see why.
I believe our violent crime rate is something like five times higher than yours. We have a more violent culture. Combine this with our much greater population and you'll see why.
Waaaaal Pedro, we're talking individual incidents here. I'm sure, a guy with a machete here, is the same as an American with a machete. Now, maybe folks are saying we should kill our machete welding thugs because they deserve it. That's a whole different conversation.
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They're just like yours, two in a car normally. I'm not sure why they didn't taser him. Maybe nobody had one with them. If he had tried to move away from the police, to attack the public, then I am sure they would have found a way to deal with him, in those circumstances. They always do, and very few people in this country die at the hands of the police.
