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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Thursday she'll oppose President Obama if he vetoes legislation empowering families of victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks to sue Saudi Arabia in U.S. courts.
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Dubbed the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, or JASTA, the legislation would empower those injured in the 9/11 attacks and the families of the deceased to sue Saudi Arabia in U.S. courts. Saudi officials have long been suspected of supporting the hijackers who carried out the strikes — charges the nation denies — and the victims have sought for years to bring their cases before a judge.
The White House is vowing to veto the bill, warning that it would erode decades-old diplomatic immunity protections — solidified by a 1976 law exempting foreign governments from suits in U.S. courts — thereby subjecting the United States to similar suits around the globe.
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Many of the president's closest Democratic allies are urging him to sign the bill rather than veto it. And some think he'll do just that.
Interesting to see where this will go.
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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Thursday she'll oppose President Obama if he vetoes legislation empowering families of victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks to sue Saudi Arabia in U.S. courts.
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Dubbed the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, or JASTA, the legislation would empower those injured in the 9/11 attacks and the families of the deceased to sue Saudi Arabia in U.S. courts. Saudi officials have long been suspected of supporting the hijackers who carried out the strikes — charges the nation denies — and the victims have sought for years to bring their cases before a judge.
The White House is vowing to veto the bill, warning that it would erode decades-old diplomatic immunity protections — solidified by a 1976 law exempting foreign governments from suits in U.S. courts — thereby subjecting the United States to similar suits around the globe.
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Many of the president's closest Democratic allies are urging him to sign the bill rather than veto it. And some think he'll do just that.
Interesting to see where this will go.
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Originally Posted by bentlebee
I don't think Obama will veto this bill unless he wants to dig a deeper hole!
President Obama might sign it, or he might Veto it.
the question is... is he and congress willing to open the can of worms.... from the article.."law exempting foreign governments from suits in U.S. courts — thereby subjecting the United States to similar suits around the globe''...
for example: Adam Pearlman AKA Adam Yahiye Gadahn
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American senior operative, cultural interpreter, spokesman[2] and media advisor[3] for the Islamist group al-Qaeda. Since 2004, he had appeared in a number of videos produced by al-Qaeda as "Azzam the American" ('Azzām al-Amrīki, عزام الأمريكي, sometimes transcribed as Ezzam Al-Amerikee). Gadahn, who converted to Islam from Christianity in 1995 at a California mosque, was described as "homegrown," meaning that he had converted to an ideology so firmly that he was willing to harm his country of origin
Gadahn declared his animosity towards the United States by declaring it "enemy soil" and praising the individuals responsible for the September 11 attacks.....In a 2005 video, Gadahn threatened to attack Los Angeles....
so this guy was AMERICAN....and therefore.....WE (the USA) would / could be held liable (ie a civil/criminal law suit) from other countries.... just because he is American by birth
alq is NOT a suadi organization...they were headquartered in Afghanistan during the 9/11 attacks.... bin laden then escaped to Pakistan
btw alq, isis, boko are spread around over 23 countries to include Uzbekistan , and Turkey
Saudi Arabia (the country) had nothing to do with the attacks..... some people and 'extremists' form Saudi might have
we don't need to be suing countries...we need to be getting rid of these extremist groups
President Obama might sign it, or he might Veto it.
the question is... is he and congress willing to open the can of worms.... from the article.."law exempting foreign governments from suits in U.S. courts — thereby subjecting the United States to similar suits around the globe''...
Gadahn declared his animosity towards the United States by declaring it "enemy soil" and praising the individuals responsible for the September 11 attacks.....In a 2005 video, Gadahn threatened to attack Los Angeles....
so this guy was AMERICAN....and therefore.....WE (the USA) would / could be held liable (ie a civil/criminal law suit) from other countries.... just because he is American by birth
alq is NOT a suadi organization...they were headquartered in Afghanistan during the 9/11 attacks.... bin laden then escaped to Pakistan
btw alq, isis, boko are spread around over 23 countries to include Uzbekistan , and Turkey
Saudi Arabia (the country) had nothing to do with the attacks..... some people and 'extremists' form Saudi might have
we don't need to be suing countries...we need to be getting rid of these extremist groups
I was hoping someone would give an alternate viewpoint on this - because I don't know too much about international law.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Thursday she'll oppose President Obama if he vetoes legislation empowering families of victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks to sue Saudi Arabia in U.S. courts.
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Dubbed the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, or JASTA, the legislation would empower those injured in the 9/11 attacks and the families of the deceased to sue Saudi Arabia in U.S. courts. Saudi officials have long been suspected of supporting the hijackers who carried out the strikes — charges the nation denies — and the victims have sought for years to bring their cases before a judge.
The White House is vowing to veto the bill, warning that it would erode decades-old diplomatic immunity protections — solidified by a 1976 law exempting foreign governments from suits in U.S. courts — thereby subjecting the United States to similar suits around the globe.
...
Many of the president's closest Democratic allies are urging him to sign the bill rather than veto it. And some think he'll do just that.
Interesting to see where this will go.
Unlike Hillary and Pence, Pelosi voted against the Iraq War Resolution.
Wow -- I'm going to have to side with Obama on this one. Why should people be allowed to sue Saudi Arabia in this country when they can't even sue their own government for its role? Our government let the terrorists into the country with no justification and utterly failed in its duty to protect us. Foreign governments are supposed to be hostile, but our government is supposed to be on our side. Unfortunately not.
President Obama on Friday vetoed legislation that would allow families of 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia in U.S courts, setting up a high-stakes showdown with Congress.
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But the timing of the president’s veto is designed to erode congressional support for the bill and put off a politically damaging override vote until after the November elections.
Obama waited until the very end of the 10-day period he had to issue a veto, hoping to buy time to lobby members of Congress against the measure.
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But leading Democrats like Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) have said they will buck the president and support overriding his veto.
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