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LOL. As if this is even possible with this government, who hasn't been able to present a reasonable plan, or anything that even comes close to one, for two years now. What will they come up with in a few weeks or even months that they haven't come up with so far?
Giving a government in such chaos and disarray an extension is a waste of time. Push them out and let them crash and burn. It seems to be what the leavers on this thread want. Give it to them and let them live with the consequences.
The whining in the aftermath when everything goes south will most likely be epic.
There will be no whining from me, and millions of others. We voted out. Not a negotiated exit - out. We always knew what we were dealing with regarding the EU, and know exactly what they will try and do to us when we do get out of the EU. An example has got to be made.
Don't blame us for a government refusing to obey the order sent to them by the vote. It is a laughing stock, and we know it. I hope Nigel Farage manages to find one government willing to veto the request for an extension to Article 50. We want to get on with it, and begin rebuilding this country outside the EU.
The traitorous politicians within Parliament will have to face the voters eventually.
The so-called Brexit is finished. Nothing further will take place to make it happen. Before long, a new referendum vote will be ordered and it will be soundly defeated, as many more voters now know what a bogus proposition it was. Right-wing, populist, white-nationalist factions will be defeated in their attempt to use this ill-conceived plan to seize power.
If they had been successful in leaving the E. U., it would have led to Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales pushing for independence, as the majorities in those places want to remain in the E. U.
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The so-called Brexit is finished. Nothing further will take place to make it happen. Before long, a new referendum vote will be ordered and it will be soundly defeated. Right-wing, populist, white-nationalist factions will be defeated in their attempt to use this ill-conceived plan to seize power.
If they had been successful in leaving the E. U., it would have led to Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales pushing for independence, as the majorities in those places want to remain in the E. U.
Nothing needs to happen, by statute the Art. 50 filing act withdraws the UK from the EU March 29th this year. It will take an act of parliament to change this.
Further, Wales remain vote was equal or smaller than Englands, why would they push for independence from the country that has similar wishes to leave?
If Scotland gained independence they'd be unable to join the current EU, since its trade balance does not meet the EUs financial responsibility demands, its public spending alone is roughly 3-4 times the defined maximum of GDP the EU limits public spending to.
Northern Irelands issue is factionalisn, roughly 50% will always side with the island of Great Britain, and the other will side against (doesn't matter what the against is, just its against).
The so-called Brexit is finished. Nothing further will take place to make it happen. Before long, a new referendum vote will be ordered and it will be soundly defeated, as many more voters now know what a bogus proposition it was. Right-wing, populist, white-nationalist factions will be defeated in their attempt to use this ill-conceived plan to seize power.
If they had been successful in leaving the E. U., it would have led to Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales pushing for independence, as the majorities in those places want to remain in the E. U.
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Nothing needs to happen, by statute the Art. 50 filing act withdraws the UK from the EU March 29th this year. It will take an act of parliament to change this.
Further, Wales remain vote was equal or smaller than Englands, why would they push for independence from the country that has similar wishes to leave?
If Scotland gained independence they'd be unable to join the current EU, since its trade balance does not meet the EUs financial responsibility demands, its public spending alone is roughly 3-4 times the defined maximum of GDP the EU limits public spending to.
Northern Irelands issue is factionalisn, roughly 50% will always side with the island of Great Britain, and the other will side against (doesn't matter what the against is, just its against).
Voters in all parts of that country are wiser now and the majority recognizes that they were sold a fraudulent bill of goods with Brexit, in the first place. Watch and see. A new referendum will be held and an overwhelming majority will vote Brexit down, once and for all. A minority of white nationalists will complain loudly, that they have been deprived of their dreams of domination, but it's over for them.
Those of us of Celtic ancestry know what that bunch has tried to do to those of other origins, for over a thousand years.
Voters in all parts of that country are wiser now and the majority recognizes that they were sold a fraudulent bill of goods with Brexit, in the first place. Watch and see. A new referendum will be held and an overwhelming majority will vote Brexit down, once and for all. A minority of white nationalists will complain loudly, that they have been deprived of their dreams of domination, but it's over for them.
Those of us of Celtic ancestry know what that bunch has tried to do to those of other origins, for over a thousand years.
A new referendum bill was defeated worse than Theresa May's second attempt at her deal. When is this referendum going to happen? In the next 9 days?
Anyway, back to Brexit. If the economy was afraid of what this would mean for the UK's financial health, you would have already seen the contraction taking place. The apparent fact that the UK's economy is not only not contracting, but in fact is expanding, tells me that most economic actors are at least somewhat sanguine as to how things will turn out, post-EU.
This is the case.
The UK government warned the electorate that a Leave vote in the referendum - just the vote and not the actual leaving - would plunge the economy into recession with up to 800,000 job losses.
There was no recession,500,000 new jobs have been added since the vote and the UK's GDP is currently above the EU average.
Crying wolf was never a good look and it's why opinion polls in favour of another referendum haven't moved at all and very few voters on either side have changed their minds since the referendum.
The so-called Brexit is finished. Nothing further will take place to make it happen. Before long, a new referendum vote will be ordered and it will be soundly defeated, as many more voters now know what a bogus proposition it was. Right-wing, populist, white-nationalist factions will be defeated in their attempt to use this ill-conceived plan to seize power.
If they had been successful in leaving the E. U., it would have led to Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales pushing for independence, as the majorities in those places want to remain in the E. U.
Voters in all parts of that country are wiser now and the majority recognizes that they were sold a fraudulent bill of goods with Brexit, in the first place. Watch and see. A new referendum will be held and an overwhelming majority will vote Brexit down, once and for all. A minority of white nationalists will complain loudly, that they have been deprived of their dreams of domination, but it's over for them.
Those of us of Celtic ancestry know what that bunch has tried to do to those of other origins, for over a thousand years.
You think so do ya? I'll give you a prediction beyond there won't be a second vote anyway. Leave would win again. You read it here first.
As for your last pitiful sentence, pass me my violin. You been watching 'Braveheart' again?
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I saw evidence of panic buying today! There was no white rum in Aldi. Plenty of foodstuffs on the shelves, but no white rum....... I said to the manager, "what's going on here. Are you allowing panic buying of Aldi white rum?"
He laughed, and said, it was just out of stock. A likely story.
Nick Cohen, columnist for the Observer, had a fascinating piece in the WaPo recently.
"British exceptionalists, like their American counterparts, insisted that other countries would bow before us. We were repeatedly assured that the E.U. needed us more than we needed them, a brag that grows more absurd by the day."
"Honest commentators don’t make predictions anymore, but stare at the wreckage with slack-jawed disbelief."
“We have no idea where we are going,” Sam Gyimah, from Theresa May’s ruling Conservative government, said last week (although I use the word “ruling” advisedly). “There is no strategy; there is no plan.”
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I said to the manager, "what's going on here. Are you allowing panic buying of Aldi white rum?"