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Old 09-04-2019, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713 View Post
I appreciate you being honest enough to admit that this is actually about blocking the will of the British people to Leave the EU as expressed through the 2016 Brexit referendum, and not about this "No deal" malarky.
And the Remainers will turn that around and suggest it is an attempt to implement that which is actually desired by a majority of the British at present.

Again chaos reigns.

 
Old 09-04-2019, 12:25 PM
 
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The majority now is surely more important and relevant than the majority more than 3 years ago.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 12:59 PM
 
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The anti-Brexit surrender bill has passed the House, 327-299. It still needs to pass the House of Lords.

Boris Johnson has just risen to call for an election. He has told the UK Parliament that the UK will still leave and on October 31 and that he will not request an extension from the EU.

Obviously, if the opposition objects to this, then they have the option of pursuing a general election.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Motion for a general election failed as it did not achieve a 2/3 majority.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Boris is now 0 for 4 with votes in the Commons.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 04:49 PM
 
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Lol, that is the worst record of any PM in history. In normal times losing one vote calls into question the ability of the PM to govern properly.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 04:53 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713 View Post
The anti-Brexit surrender bill has passed the House, 327-299. It still needs to pass the House of Lords.

Boris Johnson has just risen to call for an election. He has told the UK Parliament that the UK will still leave and on October 31 and that he will not request an extension from the EU.

Obviously, if the opposition objects to this, then they have the option of pursuing a general election.
I think the opposition would rather just legislate to prohibit Boris from pushing through a no-deal Brexit. They know that him calling for an election is a trap, if they voted for it he could then move the date to November 7 (first Thursday after Brexit day) so that his no deal Brexit happens while parliament is dissolved for the election campaign.

Parliament is dissolved 25 working days before a general election, so if an election was voted for, Boris could set the date as November 7 (or even October 31 I guess) meaning parliament would be dissolved early October, and by the time it reconvened after the election Brexit would already have happened

https://researchbriefings.parliament...ummary/SN05085
 
Old 09-04-2019, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Lol, that is the worst record of any PM in history. In normal times losing one vote calls into question the ability of the PM to govern properly.
Well its become quite obvious that he cannot govern with the current Parliament, which is why he wants an election and a new Parliament, and he will probably get that soon enough.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 05:25 PM
 
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I think the opposition would rather just legislate to prohibit Boris from pushing through a no-deal Brexit. They know that him calling for an election is a trap, if they voted for it he could then move the date to November 7 (first Thursday after Brexit day) so that his no deal Brexit happens while parliament is dissolved for the election campaign.

Parliament is dissolved 25 working days before a general election, so if an election was voted for, Boris could set the date as November 7 (or even October 31 I guess) meaning parliament would be dissolved early October, and by the time it reconvened after the election Brexit would already have happened

https://researchbriefings.parliament...ummary/SN05085
Johnson indicated that he would not request any extension past October 31, regardless if what legislation Parliament passes. The higher authority is the verdict from the public referendum choosing to Leave the EU.

If the opposition has a problem with that, the answer is to hold a general election and force Boris into the back benches.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 05:27 PM
 
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Well its become quite obvious that he cannot govern with the current Parliament, which is why he wants an election and a new Parliament, and he will probably get that soon enough.
Nobody can govern with this current Parliament. For that reason alone a general election is needed.
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