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Old 04-13-2017, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Arkansas was at one time virtually a one party (Democratic) state. I heard Michael Medved mention today that the state is now overwhelmingly Republican. The GOP has a 3/4ths supermajority in the state House, and barely under a supermajority in the Senate (24 of 35 seats).
Arkansas representative switches parties, giving GOP supermajority in House


And a GOP governor, former DEA head and US House member Asa Hutchinson.


It occurred to me after hearing Medved that what Bill Clinton did in 1992 would not be possible in the Arkansas of today. This portends problems for Demcrats in 2020. Julia Louis-Dreyfus ('Elaine' on Seinfeld) recently said that she has been approached by Dems who want her to run for office.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/...crats-politics


This is what happens when a Bill Clinton is no longer possible.
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Old 04-13-2017, 04:54 PM
 
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I dunno..
Was Obama too different from Clinton?
If yes, how so?
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Old 04-13-2017, 04:59 PM
 
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I dunno..
Was Obama too different from Clinton?
If yes, how so?
It's not very complicated.

Bill Clinton is a Southern Democrat who thinks that Obama should be carrying his bags.

Obama is an affirmative action community agitator who thinks the Clintons are asses who owe him something.

Hillary hates Obama & Mooch.

Mooch hates the Clintons.
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Old 04-13-2017, 05:20 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Arkansas was at one time virtually a one party (Democratic) state. I heard Michael Medved mention today that the state is now overwhelmingly Republican. The GOP has a 3/4ths supermajority in the state House, and barely under a supermajority in the Senate (24 of 35 seats).
Arkansas representative switches parties, giving GOP supermajority in House


And a GOP governor, former DEA head and US House member Asa Hutchinson.


It occurred to me after hearing Medved that what Bill Clinton did in 1992 would not be possible in the Arkansas of today. This portends problems for Demcrats in 2020. Julia Louis-Dreyfus ('Elaine' on Seinfeld) recently said that she has been approached by Dems who want her to run for office.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/...crats-politics


This is what happens when a Bill Clinton is no longer possible.
What has happened is the re-alignment of political parties along religious/cultural lines. Arkansas hasn't changed but the two party system has changed. The change was permanent around the time of the 2004 election, when gay marriage was the deciding issue. The 2004 election was the election that cemented the GOP as the party of rural, religious common people and the Democrats as the party of the urban elite. Bush narrowly won Arkansas in 2000, but won it overwhelmingly in 2004.
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Old 04-13-2017, 05:25 PM
 
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Default Would the rise of Bill Clinton be possible today?

Is she blonde or brunette?
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Old 04-13-2017, 05:30 PM
 
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No, white southerners still vote primarily based on social and identity issues. A place like NYC is way different than Little Rock, that's just the way it is. It's a shame too because the south stands to benefit the most from improved healthcare, education, ect.
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Old 04-13-2017, 05:33 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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No, white southerners still vote primarily based on social and identity issues. A place like NYC is way different than Little Rock, that's just the way it is. It's a shame too because the south stands to benefit the most from improved healthcare, education, ect.
This.

Southerners used to vote based on these issues. Workers rights, healthcare, etc were huge in the South and that is a big reason Democrats dominated it for many decades.

Today, it's all about God, gays, and guns and those issues take precedence over economic issues that once dominated Southern politics.
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Old 04-13-2017, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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The Clintons also dramatically changed the Democratic Party and inserted the big business, neo-liberal aspect that dominates right now, so if they had never come to power things would be different. But I agree identity politics would still be the deciding factor, as it was in 2016.
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Old 04-13-2017, 05:38 PM
 
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"A Rise" hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Please tell me you set that up?


Slick wille "rising" to the ocation....HAHhhahahhahhahaaa
Maybe if there were interns involved in then, he may "rise."


HAhhaaaaaa
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Old 04-13-2017, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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A D like Clinton couldn't get elected governor in Arkansas today.

But there are still states where a D like Clinton could get elected governor. And once he had that, yes, I think a political natural like Clinton could get elected president today.
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