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Old 09-25-2016, 06:22 PM
 
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They can have it!!!

Cut-loose all those leeeeech nations from the USA......Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, etc, etc!
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Old 09-25-2016, 06:22 PM
 
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I think Hawaiians should look at the world with a measure of pragmatism, they need to realize that Hawaii’s future is part of the United States, not as being an individual nation.
Agreed and; either China or Russia would gobble up Hawaii real fast IMHO.
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Old 09-25-2016, 06:23 PM
 
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God... you need an education as to what the US did to Hawaii... let me give you a clue, " it was illegally over thrown"
Ya think ? Gee thanks, professor. Know all about it.Blame the sugar tariff. Blame Captain Cook. Whomever you please.


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THE APOLOGY - United States Public Law 103-150

So, you want the Hawaiian's move to a state of their choice?? Brad what chew smoking....
No I want them to increase state power so they can make their own laws for the state they are in.


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this land is my land. LMAO
No it isn't. If I shot you it would be my land. That's how it worked. Humans occupy territories or are driven off like every other territorial species. I have relatives in Croatia. You gonna help me get some of that land backs?
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Old 09-25-2016, 06:29 PM
 
Location: honolulu
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Ya think ? Gee thanks, professor. Know all about it.Blame the sugar tariff. Blame Captain Cook. Whomever you please.


No I want them to increase state power so they can make their own laws for the state they are in.


No it isn't. If I shot you it would be my land. That's how it worked. Humans occupy territories or are driven off like every other territorial species. I have relatives in Croatia. You gonna help me get some of that land backs?
shoots what you need help with.. Hawaiians went to south dakota to help them with the pipe line...



blame Cook. ok if you like.



increase state power.. that whats they trying to do every day....



you right about driving off everyone else...


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Old 09-25-2016, 06:29 PM
 
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If the US didn't annex Hawaii then the Japanese would have. It was the presence of Japanese warships in Hawaii that compelled US businessmen to get the US government involved. If not for the US, then all Hawaiians would be speaking Japanese now. I can't say that would have been a better situation.
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Old 09-25-2016, 06:33 PM
 
Location: honolulu
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They can have it!!!

Cut-loose all those leeeeech nations from the USA......Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, etc, etc!
so which of these nations you have named, asked for the US to be invaded by??

here is a list of the History of US interventions...




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HAITI 1891 Troops Black revolt on Navassa defeated.
IDAHO 1892 Troops Army suppresses silver miners' strike.
HAWAII 1893 (-?) Naval, troops Independent kingdom overthrown, annexed.
CHICAGO 1894 Troops Breaking of rail strike, 34 killed.
NICARAGUA 1894 Troops Month-long occupation of Bluefields.
CHINA 1894-95 Naval, troops Marines land in Sino-Japanese War

History of U.S. Military Interventions since 1890
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Old 09-25-2016, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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great post, whats the difference between the DOI and the State department?
The DOI deals with "government-to-tribe" relations, while the U.S. Department of State deals with "government-to-government" relations.
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Old 09-25-2016, 06:36 PM
 
Location: honolulu
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They can have it!!!

Cut-loose all those leeeeech nations from the USA......Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, etc, etc!
please send the memo to the state department.... ASAP!!!
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Old 09-25-2016, 06:47 PM
 
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shoots what you need help with.. Hawaiians went to south dakota to help them with the pipe line...



blame Cook. ok if you like.



increase state power.. that whats they trying to do every day....



you right about driving off everyone else...




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Anyone who did not know that is too far gone to be reasoned with. US foreign policy in the Middle East is run by Zionist Jews.


Look the US was a compromise of 13 colonies in their attempt to break away from British rule. The most pragmatic thing to do is use the institutions they created to run Hawaii the way you like. So then I can expect you all to roll back Federal power?
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Old 09-25-2016, 07:08 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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please send the memo to the state department.... ASAP!!!
Let me ask this, how many businesses are under actual Hawaiian control and how many are under Asian control? Exactly how would creating a separate Hawaii work given the amount of foreigners who mostly own the islands?
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