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Old 09-26-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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Including grenade launchers And they're worried about private ownership, where we have to pay for our weapons making us far less likely to lose one

Southern California police agencies missing more than 300 weapons | Fox News

What's even more unsettling? "many agencies don't track their guns", and "California law doesn't require officers to report lost or stolen weapons".
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Old 09-26-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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Out of all places California doesn't require law enforcement officials to report lost or stolen firearms and yet they have some of the strictest gun laws in the United States for civilians.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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Out of all places California doesn't require law enforcement officials to report lost or stolen firearms and yet they have some of the strictest gun laws in the United States for civilians.
Well, it does seem that the more progressive areas tend to have a "government officials are special and above the rest of us" attitude. This can be illustrated by the support for Hillary.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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Including grenade launchers And they're worried about private ownership, where we have to pay for our weapons making us far less likely to lose one

Southern California police agencies missing more than 300 weapons | Fox News

What's even more unsettling? "many agencies don't track their guns", and "California law doesn't require officers to report lost or stolen weapons".
LOL...you can bet most of those are thefts because people generally don't lose their firearm.

Relative to the number of police officers and the 5 year span it's likely not a large percentage but I'm surprised to hear they are not required to report it.

I'm extremely surprised you can lose a department issued weapon and not have to report it.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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LOL...you can bet most of those are thefts because people generally don't lose their firearm.

Relative to the number of police officers and the 5 year span it's likely not a large percentage but I'm surprised to hear they are not required to report it.

I'm extremely surprised you can lose a department issued weapon and not have to report it.

Sounds like there might be a nice little black market scheme going on here. In most departments around the country you get into a LOT of trouble if a firearm comes up missing. Either that or Obama's starting up a new "Fast and Furious" program in the land of fruits and nuts.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:58 AM
 
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Sounds like there might be a nice little black market scheme going on here. In most departments around the country you get into a LOT of trouble if a firearm comes up missing. Either that or Obama's starting up a new "Fast and Furious" program in the land of fruits and nuts.
Someone down in Mexico would surely want a few grenade launchers? Maybe they're stocking up for Fast and Furious II
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Old 09-26-2016, 10:07 AM
 
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They are required to report it, just not in the way you think. Not reporting the lost or stolen gun still has a nexus to the job and the officer can be held accountable for the negligent act of failing to report.

If the guns stolen or lost weren't reported in any manner, just how did they come up with the number?
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Old 09-26-2016, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Well, it does seem that the more progressive areas tend to have a "government officials are special and above the rest of us" attitude. This can be illustrated by the support for Hillary.
Also they "interpret" 5150 laws as they see fit (not an opinion, but published facts in their words) to actively confiscate guns from law abiding citizens. They are completely ignoring the constitution in this state.

It's like living in a Mad Hatters Tea Party all the time.
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They are required to report it, just not in the way you think. Not reporting the lost or stolen gun still has a nexus to the job and the officer can be held accountable for the negligent act of failing to report.

If the guns stolen or lost weren't reported in any manner, just how did they come up with the number?
Have you considered that the 500 number is how many were actually reported, and not the true number which will never be determined?

In a state with more than 80,000 LEOs, doesn't 500 seem suspiciously low to you?
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Old 09-26-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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If the guns stolen or lost weren't reported in any manner, just how did they come up with the number?
An inventory is a great way to match up what you have to what you're supposed to have, retail stores do it all the time.
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