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Old 09-28-2016, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Carter, while a complete fool, was at least the last honest Dem they have put out.

Bill Clinton? Lying POS

Obama, Racist POS liar

Hilly? probably the most dishonest Dem EVER nominated for office. Her scandal plagued history is replete with 1 lie after another! Obama called her a liar, Bernie called her a liar, Trump calls her a liar.

Really dems? This is who you think is best for America?
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:20 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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You do know that Democrats will say the same thing right back at you? Especially about George Bush II.

Or how about "Free Trade creates jobs", I been listening to that line my whole life. Leaders of both parties vomit it out all the time and they are never questioned by the media because people forget the media is owned by corporations.

The problem is not just one of the parties - it is both. We are living in a country that is dominated by an elite corporate establishment which dominates the majority of politicians of BOTH parties. That is why so many people were attracted to independent minded candidates like Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump even despite Trump's many character flaws.

If Trump had learned to control his mouth he would be blowing corporate Hillary away right now.
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Old 09-29-2016, 06:29 AM
 
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I think one reason people hate trump so much is, that they really want a politician that lie, cheat, and corrupt. It like they never had anybody honest so they know no better. They wouldn't know how to act with someone that knew business enough r to handle economics
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Old 09-29-2016, 06:37 AM
 
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If Trump had learned to control his mouth he would be blowing corporate Hillary away right now.
That's truth right there.

Trump has the ability to raise his game if he could control himself. Clinton - we already know who she is. She has plateau-ed already. She can only lift herself up on the back of Trump's mistakes.


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I think one reason people hate trump so much is, that they really want a politician that lie, cheat, and corrupt. It like they never had anybody honest so they know no better. They wouldn't know how to act with someone that knew business enough r to handle economics
Trump must be defeated because he is outside of the global elite structure that exists. The last president outside of the global elites was Reagan. If Trump wins, he could set back their agenda. The global elites have a vested interest in defeating Trump.
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Old 09-29-2016, 07:35 AM
 
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At least the Democrats had Bernie, who was comparatively a Saint on this issue. I'm not saying he's NEVER lied, intentionally or unintentionally, but as far as politicians go, he was pretty honest. The Republicans had what, 16 people, all of whom full of ****? Trump just starts talking. I don't even think he's lying on purpose, I just think he doesn't care.

We have dishonest politicians. Pretend all you want that is effects one side more than the other. Believe unicorns are real. I don't care what you delude yourself with. The crazy **** you believe, the funnier it is for the rest of us.
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Old 09-29-2016, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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It's very difficult to find an honest politician.
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Old 09-29-2016, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Why cant Democrats nominate someone who is honest?

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Carter, while a complete fool, was at least the last honest Dem they have put out.

Bill Clinton? Lying POS

Obama, Racist POS liar

Hilly? probably the most dishonest Dem EVER nominated for office. Her scandal plagued history is replete with 1 lie after another! Obama called her a liar, Bernie called her a liar, Trump calls her a liar.

Really dems? This is who you think is best for America?

You need to go for an honest, straight-talking hero.

Carry on.

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Old 09-29-2016, 07:57 AM
 
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All politicians lie.
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Old 09-29-2016, 08:02 AM
 
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You cannot be a politician and not lie.

Clinton, BTW, is very average in terms of lies for a political candidate. Per Polifact, she's middle of the road, slightly better than average.

Trump, on the other hand, is basically off the charts. He essentially broke the mold. He has the highest proportion of lies of any major candidate in modern American political history.
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Old 09-29-2016, 08:03 AM
 
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Politics isn't about the truth. Politics is about personas and selling messages.
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