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Okay. I agree that we don't belong over there. Never did.
But I know people personally who lived under the Shah, and life was pretty good. They fled when the Ayatollah started to gain power. That group pretty much opened the prisons, dropped the Islamic curtain down on a once prosperous and relatively pleasant nation, terrorized anyone who resisted, and now look at it.
We helped to install Saddam, and Ghadafi. As it turns out, Islamic countries need a secular strongman to control that mass insanity they call a religion.
It wasn't until President Bush and the neocons decided that the middle east needed democracy that the more stable ME nations started to crumble. Every time they get a democracy, they vote for an Islamic governing body.
Obama has continued with the pooch-screw in the middle east. The question is why?
Do these people have an agenda? Are they really so stupid as to believe that Islam and democracy coexisting in the Arab world will work? They are fundamentally opposed ideologies. Islam is authoritarian. Period. It's not just a religion, it's a form of governance.
The reason it's okay in Indonesia ( for the most part ) is that those folks practice a very relaxed form of Islam that is similar to how most Americans approach religion.
I think Bush was being paid by the Saudis to help Islamize the West, just as Hillary is. The rest of the politicians are probably being bought off by one semitic group, globalist, bankers and corporations or another. I think politicians just rationalize they are doing a good thing and that it's possible and even desirable to make a Westerner out of anyone and everyone.
I am more than willing to let the Russians dominate the Great Sandbox and their psychotic inhabitants. That will do more damage to them to us. Like I said before we need to get out of the area and stay out of the area. Europe should not effect any refugees from that area forever.
Put a net around the Sandbox and let the occupants do what ever they want to do with each other.
Oh dear me! American's grasp of history leaves one wondering how stupid they really are. You can look much further back than Iraq to determine the genesis of all of this current day Muslim, Daesh, Taliban, ISIS/ISIL, Al Queda crappola.
As a result of that interference; Iranians were subjected to decades of brutal rule by the despotic Shah. Neighbouring Arabs underwent similar clandestine interference and ALL understandably developed a hatred for all things western that goes beyond mere politics.
The rest of the world needs to thank, principally America, among other nations like the U.K. and France for it's having to endure terrorist atrocities committed in the last 40 years.
American's: doomed to forever repeat their failures because they never learn from them.
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I am more than willing to let the Russians dominate the Great Sandbox and their psychotic inhabitants. That will do more damage to them to us. Like I said before we need to get out of the area and stay out of the area. Europe should not effect any refugees from that area forever.
Put a net around the Sandbox and let the occupants do what ever they want to do with each other.
Word is at least the Muslim Middle East has NEVER liked anything about the 1st World. IF was king of the world; I'd put the crazier "Muslims" on "rez's" and call it good. Very nasty to say but; those people are trouble. Period.
Sad cause most Christian Arabs are so different in many good ways, like as in civilized.
It's worse than Iraq. At least in Iraq it started off as a half-hearted effort to win before the whole nation building thing began. So much for the "arab spring" where the world holds hands in harmony.
When the top Russian Federation spokeswoman warns of "tectonic" consequences,
very few Americans have any idea what she's really hinting at.
Before I speak of that, you need to realize that the American media is lying.
The little boy from Aleppo, and yesterday's fabricated news of a baby rescued,
these are staged events curated for American media by the White Helmets propaganda.
Back to the tectonic warning.
Russia has earthquake weapons. They can literally start earthquakes, tsunamis,
hurricanes, and storms with Tesla-based energies. These energies rattle the tectonic
plates and cause earthquakes. Vladimir Zhironovsky is on record warning America that
this ability (and other abilities) are at their disposal. They can wipe out the Eastern or
Western American seaboards. They can cause the Madrid, Cascadian or San Andreas
faults to shift. If they set off Cumbre Vieja in the Canary Islands to cause a Megatsunami
that will kill 100 Million Americans (Zhironovsky's own words), America will be in the dark
ages for decades. Their woodpecker grid shut down system has been in place since
at least the 1970s which blacks out all electricity in America with NO EMP necessary.
You won't hear about this on CNN, people, until it happens.
In Syria, Russia, just last year, used their Krasukha-4 portable electromagnetic
warfare vehicles to place a 600km dome of inpenetrability over Syria. They use
these and other A2/AD tech systems to protect the Black Sea, Caspian Sea,
Kaliningrad exclave and North Sea. These systems have been used by Russian jets
to shut down American vessels. They render all guided missiles as duds. They make
all communication and electrical-based computing impossible. American jets cannot
fly in Syria when A2/AD is being employed. We're not talking about a no-fly zone
enforced by anti-aircraft, we're talking about a no-fly that is silent but there, the
type which you won't hear about on television news because the Pentagon doesn't
want us to know that they are powerless against Russia's systems.
This information is too complex and hidden from Americans so that they hear of it,
they imagine that it's just crazy talk, but it's not, it's real.
At what point do words cease having meaning to the person who refuses to accept
that America is not all-powerful ?
You think about that, and research what you may.
I have written various important keywords in this post, so look it up for yourself,
this is all bloody true.
IMHO 2 can play that game since the US would go batcrap crazy IF seriously hit by Russia, China, Iran and so on. We'd be badly hurt but those other countries would be gone.
Sad cause most Christian Arabs are so different in many good ways, like as in civilized.
That's the thing, we could selectively allow in the small number remaining of those real refugees like we did way back in the day in the early 1900s and give them decades to assimilate. Not saying we should even do that anymore. But no, we bring in mass numbers of the most incompatible and non-interchangeable and America transforming and even encourage them to be so from the middle east and throughout the world.
That's the thing, we could selectively allow in the small number remaining of those real refugees like we did way back in the day in the early 1900s and give them decades to assimilate. Not saying we should even do that anymore. But no, we bring in mass numbers of the most incompatible and non-interchangeable and America transforming and even encourage them to be so from the middle east and throughout the world.
Agreed.
Some cultures; regardless of "race", "play well" with the main culture here in the US and become "anglo" or at least their kids do in a few years. Other cultures, nope.
IMHO 2 can play that game since the US would go batcrap crazy IF seriously hit by Russia, China, Iran and so on. We'd be badly hurt but those other countries would be gone.
not so. Russia can take out ICBMs physically, and of course mess up electronics and radar
of any missile. they are also much less populated and 2x bigger.
there is so much unknown about what will actually happen in WW3.
this is not 40 years ago when mutual assured destruction was taken for granted,
it's a lot more complicated now.
weather weapons are also accompanied by plausible deniability.
FEMA is prepped for tens of millions of deaths in New Madrid and Cascadian fault lines.
No one is starting any war, particularly the US and Russia. This is just an idle threat by Russia to support Assad.
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