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I'm seeing a growing trend among people in the right. At one time the right wing were full of sensible people who believed in small government, a distrust of people in power, individualism, and free markets. Today conservatives almost don't resemble anything free market anymore. It appear that conservatives have just become "liberal light". They want to take slightly less rights away than liberals, but there is still an undertone of "taking right away". I feel that the party is no longer really conservative, and have just gone full authoritarian. What really is the distinction between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives, sorry, I meant to say Republicans, seem far more docile when it comes to government and "authority". Things like support of stop and frisk, protesting body cams on police, blindly supporting military occupation, and the need to label everyone and anything "terrorism" just shows that conservatives would just as soon support the rise of a police state. I do not hear any conservatives talking about liberty as a core principal, and conservatives pretty much ignore anything dealing with the free market now. Now the party is dominated by social issues and xenophobia. But I have not heard any Republicans come forth and say anything liberty minded. Republicans and congress have pretty much been tax and spend disasters for nearly 10 years, where actual fiscal conservatives in the Republican party almost seems like the "fringe".
How can anyone say that Republicans are remotely conservative anymore? It's not true. They're unwavering authoritarians, all about big government. The thing is they seem to be all about taking rights away for "some" people. Which is definitely not in line with principals of liberty.
You have natural, inherent, inalienable rights to do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. You could also say "don't attack people or take their stuff when they've done nothing wrong" to oversimplify it.
Anyone who does is violating your rights as a human being. If you're being threatened, punished, fined, taxed, or whatever for a peaceful activity, your rights are being violated.
I'm seeing a growing trend among people in the right. At one time the right wing were full of sensible people who believed in small government, a distrust of people in power, individualism, and free markets. Today conservatives almost don't resemble anything free market anymore. It appear that conservatives have just become "liberal light". They want to take slightly less rights away than liberals, but there is still an undertone of "taking right away". I feel that the party is no longer really conservative, and have just gone full authoritarian. What really is the distinction between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives, sorry, I meant to say Republicans, seem far more docile when it comes to government and "authority". Things like support of stop and frisk, protesting body cams on police, blindly supporting military occupation, and the need to label everyone and anything "terrorism" just shows that conservatives would just as soon support the rise of a police state. I do not hear any conservatives talking about liberty as a core principal, and conservatives pretty much ignore anything dealing with the free market now. Now the party is dominated by social issues and xenophobia. But I have not heard any Republicans come forth and say anything liberty minded. Republicans and congress have pretty much been tax and spend disasters for nearly 10 years, where actual fiscal conservatives in the Republican party almost seems like the "fringe".
How can anyone say that Republicans are remotely conservative anymore? It's not true. They're unwavering authoritarians, all about big government. The thing is they seem to be all about taking rights away for "some" people. Which is definitely not in line with principals of liberty.
I agree. I was a lifelong Conservative
Republican, and I don't even recognize this party or these people anymore. It's not the party
that I signed up for in the early eighties.
That, and honestly many Republicans don't even seem to understand the basic concept of Liberty and
Freedom any more...and at one point that was their strong point.
I got to where I could not stomach it anymore, when Trump won the Republican nomination
for Presidency - I changed my registration to Democrat.
I wanted Bernie, but even Hillary is better than the alternative - Trump.
Yes the Republicans left their former platform in the 2nd term of Bush the 2nd, and the Liberals have pushed further left than they have ever been. The moderates on the Democrat side, and the true conservatives on the Republican side are looking for someone anyone to fix it. This whole election has been about insiders versus outsiders, on both sides. Sanders on the left and Trump on the right, with Sanders being screwed by his own party and the media helping them do it that has left Trump as the closest to a political outsider in the race. Including Johnson who has received backing from many insiders and as a former governor is an insider himself that has totally ignored the core beliefs of the libertarian party. Leaving Trump as the closest to a political outsider that they can find, and is the reason so many will vote for Trump regardless of what Hillary, the media, other insiders, and people who like the loss of liberty all find to say.
Trump is not the perfect candidate, hell I would guess many who vote for him would much rather have a better choice, but Trump now is the only choice for those who are tired of the corruption and dirty politics that have been building in Washington especially over the last 25 years.
I agree. I was a lifelong Conservative
Republican, and I don't even recognize this party or these people anymore. It's not the party
that I signed up for in the early eighties.
That, and honestly many Republicans don't even seem to understand the basic concept of Liberty and
Freedom any more...and at one point that was their strong point.
I got to where I could not stomach it anymore, when Trump won the Republican nomination
for Presidency - I changed my registration to Democrat.
I wanted Bernie, but even Hillary is better than the alternative - Trump.
Sorry but liberty and freedom are not gained by the government gaining more control over your life. If you were a true conservative there is no way that Bernie is an alternative considering his socialists stances, and there is no way you could vote for someone that is corrupt as Hillary and will continue the current policies of an administration that have taken more freedom and rights from US citizens every chance they get.
You have natural, inherent, inalienable rights to do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. You could also say "don't attack people or take their stuff when they've done nothing wrong" to oversimplify it.
Anyone who does is violating your rights as a human being. If you're being threatened, punished, fined, taxed, or whatever for a peaceful activity, your rights are being violated.
If you want to exercise those rights then go live in some wilderness or ungoverned part of the world. Those that agree to live in a governed country must live by the rules passed by those that created it.
If you want to exercise those rights then go live in some wilderness or ungoverned part of the world. Those that agree to live in a governed country must live by the rules passed by those that created it.
So Hitler did nothing wrong? You could use that logic to defend any violation of rights by a government in history.
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