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Originally Posted by Dumbdowndemocrats
Ever hear of the 761 Black Panthers? Patton said he thought modern tank warfare was to fast for black troops but let's face it We all have sinned and he reversed his comment to one of high praise for their skill and courage.
Patton said he needed tankers and fast they replied it was a colored unit Patton said in return "I didn't ask their color I asked for tankers"
The speech in the movie about dying for one's country so let the Hun die for his was really to the 761 Black Panthers who from that moment fought for 183 continuous days in Europe.
Freed a concentration camp of Jews in captivity who called them their Black Angels
I think Lee was the best general in American history. He did more with less than any other. Though Washington is pretty close. Wars are won in the factories.
Lee wasn't even the best general in the Civil War. He had tons of resources contrary to popular belief (that he squandered), only fought in one theater (the Mid Atlantic), and was overly aggressive when all he had to do at best was fight the Union to a draw since the South's position was one of naturally being on defense.
Grant owned the South's Civil War generals, and is most definitely this country's greatest general. Hell, the Vicksburg campaign alone is proof. Not to mention that he kicked absolute ass in EVERY theater he fought in. And his ability to put other talented generals in the right theater and provide them with the proper support is incredible. He had brass cojones.
Lee wasn't even the best general in the Civil War. He had tons of resources contrary to popular belief (that he squandered), only fought in one theater (the Mid Atlantic), and was overly aggressive when all he had to do at best was fight the Union to a draw since the South's position was one of naturally being on defense.
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I have heard that argument particularly concerning Gettysburg but the South was at a huge economic disadvantage. The longer the war dragged on the lower their odds. I don't think Lincoln would have lost in 64 regardless of what Lee did.
I got Lee, Grant and Washington as the top three and admittedly go back and forth between the three. Washington got a bit lucky in 76 but got better with experience.
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The American army did just fine after Patton was fired after Africa.
Patton's boss, Gen. Omar Bradley, was a better tactician, and Gen. Marshall was a much better strategist. Our army was full of good commanders at all levels, because only the best were dedicated enough to stick with such a crappy career after the military was shrunk down to nothing after WWI.
Ike was sure he would never made General before he retired, and his thoughts were far from being unique to him.
Patton only got his job back because Bradley used him for doing the only thing he was good at- a fast assault, pointed in the direction Bradley chose.
Once there was no longer a need for that, Patton went back to doing nothing important again. He had the good fortune to die from a car accident while before his fleeting fame fled. He was well past his prime before WWII even began.
If he had lived, he would have joined the ranks of a hundred other Generals who had his same abilities and were soon forgotten after their wars ended.
I have black heroes too. The Red Tails, the heroic black supply drivers who made the best of segregation and served the country the best way they could.
I have black heroes too. The Red Tails, the heroic black supply drivers who made the best of segregation and served the country the best way they could.
Seriously, you're claiming to have black heroes? LOL
Today we are overrun by feminine men and butchified women. Everything offends them. If anyone disagrees with them they are accused of racism, bigotry, or ignorance. They speak of a tolerant world but they themselves are intolerant. The women of today complain of "objectification" but they are the ones putting themselves on display.
If General Patton were here today he would be drummed out of the service.
I can't keep up with all the racism charges against men who have always been heroes to me. He was a man of his time.
No he wasn't. He was a bigot, not a man of his time.
Again, he was a war historian. He knew the record of black troops in combat. The underutilization of black troops cost tens of thousands of white men their lives.
Sorry, but that is flat out inexcusable. If you don't find that to be objectionable, then DON'T EVER sit here and complain about Benghazi or some crap like that.
I have heard that argument particularly concerning Gettysburg but the South was at a huge economic disadvantage. The longer the war dragged on the lower their odds. I don't think Lincoln would have lost in 64 regardless of what Lee did.
Of course the Union still could've lost the Eastern theater in '64. That's why Grant was brought in.
And yes, the union had an economic advantage, but that makes Lee's record even worse. Again, the South didn't have the onus to win...only to defend its territory. The North actually HAD to win the war. The South would win if they could fight the Union to a draw. That's far easier to accomplish if you're on the defensive.
Again, Lee was a proven General ONLY in one theater. He refused to reinforce other generals if it took resources out of the ANV, and he often demanded that the ANV be reinforced by other Confederate Armies.
Grant was devastating in his effectiveness in three theaters, and was the mastermind of the war's most famous and studied battle...the Vicksburg Campaign.
I get it that Lee is beloved in Civil War history and believers of the lost cause mythology, but he was in no way the equal of Grant by any standard.
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