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The original purpose of feminism was to make women feel like people with a voice. They helped women gain voting and other rights.
Since women now have essentially the same rights as men, the feminist movement's current purpose is to berate men and stir up trouble. Men are being criticized and told to "check their privilege" for simply being men.
The original purpose of feminism was to make women feel like people with a voice. They helped women gain voting and other rights.
Since women now have essentially the same rights as men, the feminist movement's current purpose is to berate men and stir up trouble. Men are being criticized and told to "check their privilege" for simply being men.
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Originally Posted by evilnewbie
It was suppose to empower women... its more like a "I hate men" therapy group now...
Again, may we have some specifics and examples?
How does the feminist movement berate men, specifically. Is there a link to the purpose or mission statement because when I have looked at feminist web sites I dont see that. Perhaps there is somehow the main organization website.
How specifically are men being criticized and hated by feminist organizations, what is being said, I haven't heard it.
What do you mean by check their privilege. That would imply they have privileges that women don't, what are those privileges feminist groups want men to check and does that mean men should no longer be recognized as a privileged group, like white people?
On that page you'll see exactly what new-age feminists believe.
Here's what they don't get though: Everyone has their own privileges in life.
If you are a man and go to family court to try to get custody of your kids, who do you think will end up with the kids, even if the man is all around a better parent?
Men have the "privilege" of registering for military draft.
Men have the privilege of not having access to as many homeless and runaway shelters as women.
Men have the privilege of not being taken seriously by police and the legal system when assaulted by a woman. In many cases, they cannot even defend themselves because 99% of the time, the man gets locked up.
On that page you'll see exactly what new-age feminists believe.
Here's what they don't get though: Everyone has their own privileges in life.
If you are a man and go to family court to try to get custody of your kids, who do you think will end up with the kids, even if the man is all around a better parent?
Men have the "privilege" of registering for military draft.
Men have the privilege of not having access to as many homeless and runaway shelters as women.
Men have the privilege of not being taken seriously by police and the legal system when assaulted by a woman. In many cases, they cannot even defend themselves because 99% of the time, the man gets locked up.
Ok. That is not a feminist organization. It is an web site devoted to men and gender equality. From their site: XY is run entirely by volunteers on a not-for-profit basis. XY has no ties to any institution, funding agency, or government. XY gratefully accepts offers of financial and other support.
There are also men's right sites. Perhaps your familiar with MGTOW. And I'm sure there are many radical internet sights for both genders but they are not representative of accredited organizations that lobby for that particular genders issues nor do accredited organizations support their rhetoric.
BTW, how long did internet search take to find that site?
Feminism is supposedly about women having the same rights as men.
For that to be a valid point / issue, all of the following would have to be true :
* Men have rights which women don't have
* Those rights are rights which women rightfully ought to have
* The number / weight of those rights added up would have to be significantly greater than that of rights which women have which men don't have which men rightfully ought to have
But all of those things are not true.
Or are they? I've never heard a convincing argument that they are.
Feminism is not a cause, it is a tool. Look closely at its origins and purpose and you will see it has nothing to do with any legitimate cause and everything to do with promoting progressive policies which have an underlying motive of tearing down the basic fabric of western cultures that promote liberty based government.
To enforce laws and prosecute criminals. They are under no obligation to protect the citizens.
By enforcing laws they are protecting citizens. Law officers do indeed have an obligation to stop a crime in progress, to take a report of crime committed, and to arrest suspects. The judicial system has an obligation to protect citizens against those committing crimes by enforcing proper punishment.
Just recently states have passed stand your ground laws which legally allow citizens to use force or protect themselves.
Feminism is not a cause, it is a tool. Look closely at its origins and purpose and you will see it has nothing to do with any legitimate cause and everything to do with promoting progressive policies which have an underlying motive of tearing down the basic fabric of western cultures that promote liberty based government.
How do you say that with a straight face. At its origins it had nothing to do with legitimate causes. Do you feel the same about the Civil Rights Movement?
What, in your opinion, is the basic fabric of western cultures that promote liberty based government?
What are progressive policies and who has the feminist movement used those policies to tear down liberty?
How do you say that with a straight face. At its origins it had nothing to do with legitimate causes. Do you feel the same about the Civil Rights Movement?
Don't confuse feminism with protecting liberty of the individual. The same people who claim they championed civil rights are the ones who continuously advocate using government to force compliance. They care not of liberty, they care about getting special treatment, often at the cost of the liberty of the individual.
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Originally Posted by 2mares
What, in your opinion, is the basic fabric of western cultures that promote liberty based government?
What are progressive policies and who has the feminist movement used those policies to tear down liberty?
One that respects the liberty of the individual, that realizes that each individual is sovereign and not beholden to the social demands of hypocrite majority.
You see, you can't call yourself a protector of liberty and freedom if you think it is acceptable to mandate to the individual.
For instance, a business should be able to serve who they choose regardless. By forcing a business to serve someone they choose not to is called slavery. Liberty comes with responsibility, it means that we will have to respect what others choose so long as those choices do not infringe on our own liberties.
Feminism is not a movement based on seeking liberty for the individual, it is one that seeks to indoctrinate the masses to a given ideal and use government to bring about compliance. Feminism breaks down the morality of society and perpetuates falsehoods. Feminists are a cancer to sane thought and they are used as a tool to promote progressive policies to which further deteriorate free societies and promote discord, which is exactly what is needed by progressives in order to implement their ideal.
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