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but the number that are getting shot and the circumstances surrounding these shootings is new.
BTW: those who say our mental health system sucks, you may be right but that isn't going to stop shootings this. A better system might identify more mentally ill people, the ones than simply go on a rampage and kill.
The number of who? People? No, only in some cities. The number of cops? Yeah, the number is new, but just don't look at the effect - look at the cause.
Ban guns and they'll use a baseball bat, a hammer, a tire iron, etc. Criminals will always find a way around the law.
Rules were somewhat relaxed earlier this year. A Federal Mental Health Prohibitor defines the criteria that would make someone ineligible to legally purchase a firearm.
Most people who " go off" would not have meet the ^ criteria.
Tens of millions seek therapy, used meds or not and never " go off" the way mass shooters and ambushes do.
I have a friend that is in that business (she also is very pro 2A), and she has told us that there have been several people she has treated that should not ever have a firearm but her hands were tied due to HIPAA.
I personally know someone, that the military wouldn't accept due to his mental disorders, and had a long history of violent outbursts , yet was able to buy a firearm. And to be honest, I feel his name will pop up in the news some day. He is a scary disturbed kid.
SO every time a cop gets shot, a thread must be created. Sorry for what happen to the cops and I hope they are okay, BUT ITS LAW ENFORCEMENT, this type of job, people WILL get shot, because they are dealing with criminals. Its been going on for decades and isnt something new.
SO every time a black thug gets shot by the cops, a riot is started and the cops are accused of murder then a "thread must be created.
BLM is all over the news, then AFTER an investigation is done and we find out that the blaclk thug deserved it.
It's now being reported locally the weapon used was not an AR or AK. It was a Kel Tec KSG 12 Ga shotgun.
FYI. Boston has it's own AWB more strict than MA. The Kel Tec itself would have been banned because it's >6 rounds in a tube fed mag. The Boston AWB specifically addresses this. So it is an illegally possessed shotgun either way. However, had he lived, about 1/8 mile away in nearby Revere or Winthrop, perfectly legal to own.
The reason police responded was that his roommate claimed the suspect was threatening him with a knife.
The media gets so much wrong in the rush to report anymore....and "AK" is a good way to sexy up an argument for the anti-gun crowd....get them all riled up.
SO every time a black thug gets shot by the cops, a riot is started and the cops are accused of murder then a "thread must be created.
BLM is all over the news, then AFTER an investigation is done and we find out that the blaclk thug deserved it.
True, and it sickens me that folks react so quickly to the BS the media reports and changes day by day, but by time the facts come out, its too late.
Difference here is Criminals are Criminals are expected to break the law and do wild things, so its not out of the ordinary for them to attack cops, innocent civilians or even their own family.
Police are hired to uphold the law and THEY ARE NOT the law themselves, so even if someone is acting a fool, it is there duty to arrest the person and take them to jail and let the court system do the judge/jury/execution. IF a cop is being shot at, attacked with a knife, charged with a vehicle, or even having someone run at them to tackle (armed or not), I feel they have full authority to shoot someone like that.
BLM exists because the Black Thug always deserved it, but the White Thug most of the times IN THE SAME EXACT SITUATION, somehow gets talked down or out of it and put in hand cuffs, while the black person was shot. That is why BLM exists, unfair treatment by the cops and too many times, just a quick react to shoot a black person.
I know if these idiots would stop resisting arrest, half this crap wouldnt even go down or end up making the news, but not everything deserves a bullet, eventhough I think as a society we are better off when some trouble makers are taken out vs going in and out of prison terrorizes people in between.
It's now being reported locally the weapon used was not an AR or AK. It was a Kel Tec KSG 12 Ga shotgun.
FYI. Boston has it's own AWB more strict than MA. The Kel Tec itself would have been banned because it's >6 rounds in a tube fed mag. The Boston AWB specifically addresses this. So it is an illegally possessed shotgun either way. However, had he lived, about 1/8 mile away in nearby Revere or Winthrop, perfectly legal to own.
The reason police responded was that his roommate claimed the suspect was threatening him with a knife.
I haven't seen any update on the original story, do you have a link.
We need comprehensive national gun control and we will when Hillary appointments supreme Court members with common sense 2nd Amendment interpretations that everyone can clearly see does not extend the right for ordinary citizens to own weapons of death!
Then how do people die when being shot by police? Most those in the US military that are allowed to carry pistols are issued 9mm semi-automatics. The police in the US usually carry .40 caliber semi-auto pistols which fires the slightly larger .40 caliber round, regarded as having more "stopping power" than the 9mm rounds.
You are familiar with the legal concept of "precedence" in the US common law legal system? The US Supreme Court Justices already ruled in favor of US Federal attorney's that argued the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms only extends to those weapons that have a use in the military/militias.
In other words, assault rifles, have modern day use in the militaries of the world and is therefore US Constitutionally protected in the hands of American citizens that meet the legal requirements to purchase, hold, and own firearms.
United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939), was a Supreme Court case that involved a Second Amendment challenge to the National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA).
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On March 30, 1939, the Supreme Court heard the case. Attorneys for the United States argued four points:
The NFA is intended as a revenue-collecting measure and therefore within the authority of the Department of the Treasury.
The defendants transported the shotgun from Oklahoma to Arkansas, and therefore used it in interstate commerce.
The Second Amendment protects only the ownership of military-type weapons appropriate for use in an organized militia.
The "double barrel 12-gauge Stevens shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches in length, bearing identification number 76230" was never used in any militia organization.
One of the Justice in the Supreme Court's decision stated this:
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Not violative of the Second Amendment of the Federal Constitution. P. 307 U. S. 178.
The Court cannot take judicial notice that a shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches long has today any reasonable relation to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, and therefore cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees to the citizen the right to keep and bear such a weapon.
Not that I think the US Constitution or the Supremer Court Justices establishing precedence matters today because I don't. The former is a worthless document and the latter being an aristocratically appointed for life political organ of lies and bias will rule and make up whatever they want. Like corrupt cops. Claiming the US Constitution is a living document (meaning it can be assumed to say whatever a person wants) that requires no citizen approval for amendments, but rather a political party and its adherents in the Supreme Court can simply rule the US Constitution says whatever the party politics wants it to say.
This modern Supreme Court showed that when they claimed the Federal Government and US Supreme Court (as the 3rd branch of the Federal Government) has no authority to rule on gay marriage as that is a states rights issue to be determined by the democratic vote of every state for their respective states. Then only to turn around and contradict themselves--not even a past Supreme Court--and rule that states determining to not allow gay marriage per amendments to their own state constitutions is a violation of the US Constitution.
Then how do people die when being shot by police? Most those in the US military that are allowed to carry pistols are issued 9mm semi-automatics. The police in the US usually carry .40 caliber semi-auto pistols which fires the slightly larger .40 caliber round, regarded as having more "stopping power" than the 9mm rounds.
You are familiar with the legal concept of "precedence" in the US common law legal system? The US Supreme Court Justices already ruled in favor of US Federal attorney's that argued the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms only extends to those weapons that have a use in the military/militias.
In other words, assault rifles, have modern day use in the militaries of the world and is therefore US Constitutionally protected in the hands of American citizens that meet the legal requirements to purchase, hold, and own firearms.
One of the Justice in the Supreme Court's decision stated this:
Not that I think the US Constitution or the Supremer Court Justices establishing precedence matters today because I don't. The former is a worthless document and the latter being an aristocratically appointed for life political organ of lies and bias will rule and make up whatever they want. Like corrupt cops. Claiming the US Constitution is a living document (meaning it can be assumed to say whatever a person wants) that requires no citizen approval for amendments, but rather a political party and its adherents in the Supreme Court can simply rule the US Constitution says whatever the party politics wants it to say.
This modern Supreme Court showed that when they claimed the Federal Government and US Supreme Court (as the 3rd branch of the Federal Government) has no authority to rule on gay marriage as that is a states rights issue to be determined by the democratic vote of every state for their respective states. Then only to turn around and contradict themselves--not even a past Supreme Court--and rule that states determining to not allow gay marriage per amendments to their own state constitutions is a violation of the US Constitution.
Once upon a time the supreme Court ruled civil rights laws was unconstitutional.
But less racists and more educated peoplewere appointed on the high Court so naturally they paid no attention to those decisions.
As will Obama's and Hillary's supreme Court with that archaic 2nd Amendment.
A fundamentally transformed America can not be completed without ridding it of its bloody gun culture.
Some sources are still claiming assault rifle and body armor though.
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