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Old 10-18-2016, 03:44 PM
 
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With Hillary and one more liberal on the Supreme Court/Legislature/Executor we'll soon fully be some nightmare combination of the soviet union, communist China and Brazil with more immigration and a worse trade balance . The same fate is in store for Western Europe too.
The logic in this post is very indicative of why this country is in the political mess it's in.
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Old 10-18-2016, 06:13 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That doesn't change the fact that no one is taking away your right to own a gun.

No, they take my liberty to choose for myself what weapon I will use to defend myself, my family and defend my property with.

Freedom is the ability to choose for ones self.
Liberty is unlimited choices to choose from.

Government taking and limiting my liberty down to one choice...
They can still say I have my freedom. My freedom to take it or not.
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Old 10-18-2016, 06:23 PM
 
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The logic in this post is very indicative of why this country is in the political mess it's in.
Hillary and liberals are for mass immigration and globalism. You can try but that is undeniable.
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Old 10-18-2016, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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No, they take my liberty to choose for myself what weapon I will use to defend myself, my family and defend my property with.

Freedom is the ability to choose for ones self.
Liberty is unlimited choices to choose from.

Government taking and limiting my liberty down to one choice...
They can still say I have my freedom. My freedom to take it or not.

I get it, you are all for limiting other people's choices but not your own.
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Old 10-18-2016, 06:26 PM
 
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That doesn't change the fact that no one is taking away your right to own a gun.
That remains to be seen. I believe Hillary and others wish too. It's not just about "taking away the right to own a 'gun'", but infringement by a thousand cuts.
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Old 10-18-2016, 06:45 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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No one else, who might that be???


What are the protected privileges that gay people get exclusively?
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Exactly what rights do women and Homosexuals get that no one else does, this should be interesting.

If I were a woman or LGBTQueer, these are the privileges I get to enjoy.


1. From an early age the opposite sex will be instructed never to hit me but I may not be given the same instructions. However, should I strike males I can expect not to be hit back and any social penalties that occur from my actions will actually fall on the male.


2. If I’m not smart, but pretty, I can marry and achieve the social and financial level of my husband without ever working.


3. I can produce offspring. A status which grants me an “essential†status in our species that men can never have and which can never be taken away from me even in old age.



4. Regardless of my mate value society has organized fertility clinics and social welfare programs that will allow me to have children and provide for them should I choose to reproduce without a mate or marriage.


5. I not only have the more valuable and sought after sexual identity, but I also have complete control over my reproductive choice and in many ways over the reproductive choice of the opposite sex.
6. At any time I can abandon my parental responsibilities with little or no social stigma and hand the child over to the state or abort the pregnancy. A male could never relieve himself of this burden unless I allow him to.


7. I am granted all the rights of a democracy without any of the burdens of military service.


8. At age 18 I lose the protective status of the child but retain the protective status of the female. Boys at age 18 lose the protected status of the child and become targets if they fail to gain status after that point.


9. When I marry a man with status I can take his name and become whoever he has spent years becoming. I need not do anything special to be worthy of receiving the reputation he has built. However, if I wish to keep my own name I can do so. Should my husband feel the sting of this insult I can simply call him a sexist for it.


10. People will help me more when I’m in need and I will receive no social penalty or stigma for it.


11. When I’m on a date things will be paid for me.



12. When I search for employment I can choose jobs which I think are fulfilling without concern of whether they provide a “family†wage.


13. I can discriminate against the opposite sex ruthlessly without social penalty.


14. If I marry and quit my job and enjoy a leisurely life with light housework and then later divorce I will be given half of the marital assets.



15. If I commit a crime and am convicted I will get a sentencing “discount†because of my gender. If I am very pretty it will increase my discount.


16. If I am a partner in crime with a man I will likely be charged with lesser crimes even though I committed the same crimes even if I was the ringleader.



17. I have the option to be outraged if my husband asks me if my behavior is due to PMS and later on use PMS as a successful legal defense for murdering that same husband.



18. At age 18 I will not be forced to register for Selective Service and will not be penalized for failing to do so.


19. At a time of war I will never be drafted and ripped from my employment, home, and family and forced to become a military slave.


20. My feelings are more important than men’s lives. Every precaution will be made to protect me from harassment at work. However, males will make up nearly %100 of workplace fatalities.


21. My gender controls 80% of domestic spending. We get to spend our money if we have any and we get to spend men’s money.


22. The majority of luxury apparel is designed, marketed to, and consumed by women.


23. Seven times as much jewelry will be purchased by or for me than by or for men.


24. I have a department of women’s health whereas men have no such department.


25. My gender enjoys more government spending on health than males do.



26. My gender consumes the lioness’ share of entitlement programs while men contribute the lion’s share of taxes.


27. If I rape or molest a child I can expect lighter treatment in court and afterwards receive less social stigma. What’s more, should I become pregnant, I can sue my victim for child support when he finally turns 18.


28. When I divorce my husband I will be guaranteed custody of my children unless I am deemed to be unfit. Even if my husband is “Parent of the Year†10 years running it is unlikely he will get custody over me even if I am a mediocre parent.


29. When I divorce I can use false accusations of domestic violence, sexual molestation of the children or abuse of the children to gain advantage during court proceedings. If I am found out to be a liar I can expect to get away with it.


30. If a man calls me a **** it will probably hurt his reputation more than it hurts mine, but at any rate the damage will be small and localized. However, if I call him a child molester or claim that he raped me I can destroy him completely and the damage may be nationwide.



31. If I fail at my career I can blame the male dominated society.


32. I may have the luxury of staying home and being a housewife but if my sister’s husband does the same thing I’m likely to call him a deadbeat loser and tell her to leave him.


33. If I “choose†to join the military; the best military occupations providing the most lucrative civilian training will be reserved for me. I will be kept away from the fighting as much as possible to the point that I will be thirty times less likely to be killed in a war zone than my male counterparts. I will be given equal pay for less risk. I will never have to consider the fact that by joining the military and getting a plumb assignment I automatically forced a male out of that position and into a combat role that may cost him his life.


34. If a male soldier injures himself before a deployment he can be arrested and court marshaled for it. If I deliberately get pregnant before a deployment or even during a deployment I will be reassigned and or taken out of a war zone and I will receive no penalty for it.


35. My gender watches more television in every hour of every day than any other group. This along with the fact that women control %80 of domestic spending means that most television shows and advertisement are designed to appeal to me.


36. I can wear masculine clothing if it pleases me however men cannot wear feminine clothing without social penalty.


37. Not only is there a wealth of clothing choices designed for me but it is likely that I will be able to afford or have them provided for me.


38. I can claim that a wage gap exists and that it is the fault of sexism while simultaneously seeking employment without considering income as a priority. I will probably choose my job based on satisfaction, flexibility of hours, and working conditions and then expect to make as much as the males working nights, out in the rain and cold or working overtime.


39. I can be bigoted or sexist against males without social penalty.


40. If I make a false claim of rape against a male in an act of revenge or in order to cover up my own scandalous behavior I may well succeed at both and he may spend years in prison. If I am found out it is unlikely I will be charged, convicted, or serve any time at all.


41. If I abuse my husband and physically assault him and the police arrive it is almost guaranteed he will go to jail.


42. If I am in an abusive relationship there are a multitude of social organizations to help me get away from him. There are few for men in the same position even though women initiate the majority of DV and even though men are hospitalized %30 of the time.


43. In the event of a natural disaster or other emergency that requires evacuation I can expect to be evacuated before males. This includes male doctors, humanitarians, politicians, captains of industry, billionaires, and religious leaders. I will receive no social penalty if all of those people died because I was evacuated first. However, should they manage to get evacuated before women and those women died they will all suffer a social penalty.


44. If someone is attacking a person on the street I have no obligation to assist them and I will receive no social penalty if I do nothing.


45. If someone is harming my children and I run away and ask someone else to help I will receive no social penalty for my cowardice.



46. I’m immune to cognitive dissonance.


47. I may denounce the concept of a dowry, however, I still expect a man to give me an engagement ring when he asks me to marry him.


48. I expect a man to ask me to marry me and suffer the potential risk of rejection.


49. If I lie it’s because I’m a victim of a male dominated society forced into difficult circumstances and not because I’m a bad person.


50. If my boyfriend sabotages a condom he can pay me child support for the next 20 years. If I secretly don’t take my birth control my boyfriend can pay me child support for the next 20 years.


51. If I’m uncomfortable exercising around men I can demand a female only gym be made for women. If any male only gyms exist I can demand membership under threat of lawsuit.



52. If my female only gym at the university decides to close early for safety reasons I can scream sexism and force them to keep it open as long as the main gym.


53. If I succeed at keeping the female gym open and I leave late at night and I don’t feel safe I can demand that the university spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for more lighting and police presence.


54. If after getting new lighting and police protection I decide I don’t want to go to the gym anymore well that’s just my prerogative.


55. I’m likely to believe that if a woman is intoxicated she is not capable of giving consent and if sex occurs it is rape. However, if her male partner is also intoxicated he is capable of consenting.


56. If a man is promoted over me at work I have a right to suspect sexism even though I also believe that under adverse circumstances men are more capable than women of making good decisions. (see #55)


57. I can cry and get my husband to do something for me that he might not have done otherwise.


58. I expect people (especially men) to be sensitive to my feelings.
59. I can deny a man’s feelings or disregard them or ridicule him for having them without social penalty.


60. If I lose my job it’s because of sexism or the economy. If a man loses his job it’s because he’s a loser.


61. If I go to a club or bar with my girlfriends and I look my sexy best I have a right to be perturbed when men approach me and hit on me in this public place.


62. Even though men die more from prostate cancer than women die from breast cancer I can expect that twice as much funding is given for breast cancer. The same will apply to any female specific disease or malady.


63. If for some reason I do not get custody of my children I will be expected to pay less child support than another man in my exact same position.


64. If I kidnap my children and I am eventually caught I can successfully defend myself by claiming I was protecting them from my husband–even if my children were given to him to protect them from me.



65. My gender makes up %53 of the voting population yet when I see more men in political office I will call that sexism.


66. If I am married with children and I want to stay home with the kids I’m likely to blame my husband for not making enough to allow me to do that.


67. I think it is my right to work and I am unconcerned if the influx of women into the workforce has reduced overall wages to the point that it’s hard to support a family on just one income, or affirmative action has kept men from being promoted even though they deserved it.


68. I can get student financial aid without signing up for Selective Service (the Draft).


69. I can get employment with a federal agency without signing up for Selective Service.


70. Restrooms for my gender will be cleaner and are more likely to have flowers or other decorations.


71. If I’m caring for a child restrooms for my gender will more likely have a changing table for my convenience.


72. People I’ve never met before are more likely to open doors for me.


73. People I’ve never met before are more likely to talk to me in public.


74. If I go to a bar I can expect that members of the opposite sex will purchase drinks for me.


75. Anytime I find an organization just for men I can denounce it as sexism.



76. I believe that women should have organizations just for women.



77. If I meet a man that I like and I give him my phone number and he doesn’t call I have a right to think of him as an *******.


78. If I meet a man that I like and I give him my phone number and he calls me I have a right to blow him off or act like I don’t know him.


79. I believe I have a right to live in an orderly and safe society but I feel no obligation to risk my safety to secure or maintain that society.


80. I like it when bars and clubs have drinks specials just for women.



81. I think that organizations that offer any discounts or privileges just for men is a clear sign of sexism.


82. If I’m white I will live 6 years longer than white males and 14 years longer than black males.



83. If I’m encouraged to get medical care it’s because I owe it to myself.



84. When my husband is encouraged to get medical help it’s because he owes to to me and the kids.



85. If something bad happens to me or just one woman I believe it is an offense against all women.



86. I believe that if something bad happens to a man it’s because he’s a loser.



87. I think that alimony is fair when paid to a woman but not fair when paid by a woman.


88. I’m more likely to believe that women who commit crimes are sick and need treatment or understanding whereas men who commit crimes are evil and should be locked up forever.


89. I can criticize the opposite sex without social penalty, but woe be to the man who attempts to criticize me or other women.


90. I can throw a fit and act like a two year old to get what I want without damaging my mate value.


91. I have the luxury of not being the filter for natural selection.


92. I can sleep with my boss if I want and afterwards I can sue him for sexual harassment.



93. I can wear seductive clothing and perfume to attract a man at work but no one will accuse me of sexual harassment.


94. If I hear a story about Darfur and how men who leave the refugee camps to gather wood are hacked to death to prevent their wives from being raped I am likely to think that is proper but not likely to send money.


95. If I hear a story about Darfur and how women are leaving the refugee camps to gather wood are being raped I’m likely to be outraged. I’m also likely to wonder why these women’s husbands aren’t protecting them.


96. If I ever heard these stories about Darfur it is my privilege not to care or even consider that the reason the second story exists is because all the men in the first have already been killed.


97. It is my right to maintain the belief that men oppress women despite all of the evidence to the contrary.
https://mensresistance.wordpress.com...ege-checklist/
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Old 10-18-2016, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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If I were a woman or LGBTQueer, these are the privileges I get to enjoy.

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https://mensresistance.wordpress.com...ege-checklist/

I believed you had an original thought on the subject, not a link to another universe.
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:35 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I believed you had an original thought on the subject, not a link to another universe.

LOL! With you, we have to be thorough and sometimes it still isn't enough.
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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That remains to be seen. I believe Hillary and others wish too. It's not just about "taking away the right to own a 'gun'", but infringement by a thousand cuts.

Regulations and restrictions on gun ownership are for the health of the community, just as, according to Republicans, regulations and restrictions on abortion are for the health of women.


Pot meet kettle. LOL
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Old 10-18-2016, 09:18 PM
 
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Regulations and restrictions on gun ownership are for the health of the community, just as, according to Republicans, regulations and restrictions on abortion are for the health of women.


Pot meet kettle. LOL
Republicans don't say that is the primary reason for restrictions on abortion, but anyway I could just claim "health of the community" to justify every regulation and restriction under the sun to rid the bill of rights.

How about I want liberals to abort all their ill-bred offspring. I just don't want the public to pay for it. And I want to be able to buy a brand new, normal priced, full auto, "short barrel" carbine at the corner convenience store. Kind of like how one could up until before 1986 or whatever it was. Happy now?

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