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The Spanish spoken today in the U.S. was not passed down through the generations since colonial times in florida , california,ect. It is a new phenomenon thats unrelated to the historical presence of spanish hundreds of years ago.
All people that speak spanish today are from foreign countries. Spanish is not natively spoken here.
So using your logic, then the King's English spoken in the 18th century has little to do with the spoken English language today.
Uh, no. Your assertion is at odds with history. Many languages, both indigenous and European, were spoken in the colonies well before the Revolution. The Continental Congress saw the need to translate several documents in both German and English to broaden appeal of the Revolutionary cause.
To this day, the US has not designated an official language.
It is not at odds with anything. No one is arguing that multi-language use is inherently wrong. To ignore that English has been used first and foremost since the nation's inception is nonsensical.
The reality is that theres nothing to argue about. What people are claiming has no basis in reality. Spanish is dying faster than its coming. Most young native born people DO NOT SPEAK SPANISH.
In 2050, the "hispanic" population will grow but most of them will not be Spanish speakers.
The reality is that theres nothing to argue about. What people are claiming has no basis in reality. Spanish is dying faster than its coming. Most young native born people DO NOT SPEAK SPANISH.
In 2050, the "hispanic" population will grow but most of them will not be Spanish speakers.
That's because you have no argument left after being rebuffed about Spanish being spoken exclusively by immigrants.
Well, Chinese Americans have been in this country for 100+ years, and the number of Chinese speakers isn't dying off. I'd doubt that would be the case even less for Spanish being spoken in this country.
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The Spanish spoken today in the U.S. was not passed down through the generations since colonial times in florida , california,ect. It is a new phenomenon thats unrelated to the historical presence of spanish hundreds of years ago.
All people that speak spanish today are from foreign countries. Spanish is not natively spoken here.
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Originally Posted by Tritone
Anyway, Im not going to argue.
The reality is that theres nothing to argue about. What people are claiming has no basis in reality. Spanish is dying faster than its coming. Most young native born people DO NOT SPEAK SPANISH.
In 2050, the "hispanic" population will grow but most of them will not be Spanish speakers.
Yet the founders spoke English. Plus you'll find back in the day that people of wealth spoke different languages.
And no Franklin wouldn't turn into a drama queen. In fact he spoke out against the Pennsylvania Germans not speaking English.
Actually, the reason Ben Franklin was unhappy about the Penn Germans had less to do with their speaking German, but perhaps out of spite when he started the first German language newspaper in America, only to fail in a year. Franklin also wasn't happy with the Germans' pacifist ways when they weren't all that keen on fighting the Indians.
That's because you have no argument left after being rebuffed about Spanish being spoken exclusively by immigrants.
Well, Chinese Americans have been in this country for 100+ years, and the number of Chinese speakers isn't dying off. I'd doubt that would be the case even less for Spanish being spoken in this country.
...because of immigration. I doubt more than a handful of Americans descended from Chinese Americans of 100 years ago speak fluent Chinese.
...because of immigration. I doubt more than a handful of Americans descended from Chinese Americans of 100 years ago speak fluent Chinese.
They understand this basic concept, but they want to delude themselves into believing that the U.S is a multilingual country. Its not.
Spanish just like Chinese, Russian, or Korean is a short-lived immigrant language. It is not stable here, and doesn't survive past the second generation...ever.
It doesn't matter how many immigrants come. Nothing will change. The more children they have, the faster the process will happen. Typical puertoricans in nyc, for example, don't speak spanish at all.
Even if they want Spanish to be the second language of the U.S, its not going to happen.
In colonial times spanish was once spoken, but the spanish spoken today in the U.S is unrelated to that.
Spanish today is spoken exclusively by new immigrants.
Wrong. Just wrong. Explain how they are unrelated. Spanish is not exclusively spoken by new immigrants, have you never been to Florida or California?
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