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The likeliest outcome of the coming election is Clinton and a Democratic Senate. That will create the situation where some compromise develops. I would think a Republican hold the line as at present will likely crash them in 2018.
The Republicans did come up with an alternative in June 2016 to the ACA for the first time ever. It is however the most limit of broad stroke plans with no costing and numerous unresolved issues. The claim by the Republicans is that cannot be worked out until the actual legislation is proposed. There are clearly indications that the number of Americans covered will significantly decrease and valueless policies would again be permitted.
Don't we all find it strange that Medicare is not allowed to negotiate drug prices? Whose doing is that?
The likeliest outcome of the coming election is Clinton and a Democratic Senate. That will create the situation where some compromise develops. I would think a Republican hold the line as at present will likely crash them in 2018.
Because Obamacare flipped the House and Senate for them?
Because Obamacare flipped the House and Senate for them?
No because the Republicans already have trouble with an obstructionist label. Have ACA degrade more as it likely will and the Republicans block any fix the electorate will likely turn on them in 2018.
And note that 2020 is a census year and a Presidential election. Obvious time for the Democrats to take back a good part of the gain made by the Republicans in 2010.
Republicans tunnel vision. I know the narrative is to repeal ObamaCare and get rid of it. I think we are too far along now.
This is a failure on both sides... which means it is on all of us since we put them there.
Of course that is what Obama and the Democrats had hoped, that once an entitlement was established, it would be too difficult to get rid of despite how bd it was. They knew it wouldn't work and lied through their teeth about it. Then they were hoping enough people like you would say lets tweek or fix it, rather than fix the old system (which was working for most Americans). It all in a deceptive effort to get it passed;
But don't blame the Republicans as not a single one were seriously consulted on it, nor did a single one vote for it. This abortion was 100% on the Democrats. It was a totally partisan discussion and vote which was unprecedented in our history for such an huge and important thing effecting every American.
Some of you want to elect Hillary which was the original person who tried to get this passed back in the 90's.
Not only is it a disaster, but you think she is going to be able to work with a Republican House (maybe the Senate as well) any better than Obama?
Think again.
The answer is obvious. Trumps ideas on fixing the healthcare system in this country are better, and he will work better within his own party than a polarizing member of the opposition party in Hillary.
Unless you look forward to 4 more years of gridlock.
No because the Republicans already have trouble with an obstructionist label. Have ACA degrade more as it likely will and the Republicans block any fix the electorate will likely turn on them in 2018.
Obamacare is very unpopular. No one is going to blame the (R)'s when it collapses because people have known for years it was inevitable.
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And note that 2020 is a census year and a Presidential election. Obvious time for the Democrats to take back a good part of the gain made by the Republicans in 2010.
Simple solution : get government out of healthcare.
No more licenses, controlled substances, prescriptions, etc.
No more middle men skimming from the patient and physician.
No more insurance enriching investors who profit from the misery of patients.
And yet, that is what our entire tax system does......it's a waste to argue that taxes are illegal. Just as we are not going to turn away the sick, we are not going to end taxes.
It is not a waste to argue this issue. The federal government is operating outside of its legal bounds.
There are peasants and there are free people, only a peasant accepts the tyranny of their masters.
So either we wake up, we start acting like free people, holding the government to its bounds, forcing it to its duties, or... our lives are worth nothing. We are not free and our objections are without merit.
While you may be arguing the "reality" of the current situation, it is not what the country was designed to be.
The likeliest outcome of the coming election is Clinton and a Democratic Senate. That will create the situation where some compromise develops. I would think a Republican hold the line as at present will likely crash them in 2018.
Unless Dems get 55 now, they lose Senate back in '18. 24 Dems run then, 10 GOP..5 Dems in states BO lost twice, 11 in states where they will be the likely underdog. Do not think for a second both parties are not aware. Running w/o taking Dems off hook solely for ACA demise runs up GOP score in '18, just as anti ACA created their 2010 wave victory totals, historic levels.
And note that 2020 is a census year and a Presidential election. Obvious time for the Democrats to take back a good part of the gain made by the Republicans in 2010.
That is funny. Census wins are tied to population changes (red states are gaining seats, blue losing, as a kid,, NY was #2 in EC votes, now it is 4), and also tied to having state control for remapping. GOP has 31 governors, most state houses.
The significance of 2020 is pretty clear. It is the year in which redistricting occurs. Last time it was on a mid term year with a strong Republican surge. That led to gerrymandering on a massive scale favoring Republicans in things like congressional districts. In 2020 it will be on a Presidential year almost certainly with an incumbent running. Those tend to turn out the Democrats.
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