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Old 10-25-2016, 06:26 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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Any idiot can tell you what's wrong. That's what the republicans have done. They could have made it work better by expanding Medicaid but nope. Here in Texas we refuse to expand Medicaid while simultaneously having no plan for the largest uninsured population. Your side doesn't even try to fix this country or the states they goven.
Then those "idiots" should have never introduced it in the first place, followed by the "idiots" that cheered them on. You baked this cake, so you can swallow it WHOLE. The only ones who attempted to do something constructive about the problem were the GOP. You wanted this cake, so it's yours to choke on *shrug*

Enjoy your sky high premiums, and thousands in deductibles with sub par service--you earned it and voted for it
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Old 10-25-2016, 06:34 PM
 
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Any idiot can tell you what's wrong.
What's that make Democrats when the "idiots" told them what was going to happen before it became law?

Breaking a system that is already broken for short term political points is not leadership, that's stupidity.
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Old 10-25-2016, 06:57 PM
 
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Then those "idiots" should have never introduced it in the first place, followed by the "idiots" that cheered them on. You baked this cake, so you can swallow it WHOLE. The only ones who attempted to do something constructive about the problem were the GOP. You wanted this cake, so it's yours to choke on *shrug*

Enjoy your sky high premiums, and thousands in deductibles with sub par service--you earned it and voted for it

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Old 10-25-2016, 07:04 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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It would be better than the current system where the customer is caught between the insurance company and healthcare providers with basically no recourse to dispute a bill. Been there, done that, way too many times to count. The idea that government couldn't negotiate better than individuals or small companies is pretty asinine.
***NEWSFLASH*** Everything the Govt. touches they turn to crap. Take the VA for example. What they did with Obamacare was just a HUGE expansion of Medicaid leaving those who didn't qualify to foot the bill. Single payer will come with severe treatment restrictions/controls that will make nobody happy except the healthy young who will not need to use it much.
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Old 10-25-2016, 07:07 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I wonder how the ACA would be doing now if there was a public option to compete with those high prices. The insurance companies, who fought against the public option because of the competition, are now gouging members. The best and fastest way to put an end to this is to open up the public option to compete with rip-off insurance companies.




Why we Need the Public Option more than Ever
WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT? Are you ready for Swedish style taxes? It certainly isn't going to happen without a SERIOUS raise in everyone's taxes, including the half of society that pay nothing in taxes now AND a serious decrease in services...
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Old 10-25-2016, 07:12 PM
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I wonder how the ACA would be doing now if there was a public option to compete with those high prices. The insurance companies, who fought against the public option because of the competition, are now gouging members.
You have the cart before the horse. Those are provider billing increases that are being passed along to you each year. They're uncontained because you guaranteed their income stream.

Those provider billing increases are guaranteed because they know that insurers will pay them--via your policy price increases.


It's just like your student loans. You ever wonder why universities are so sumptuously appointed and outfitted now? (Hint: Because your rising loan costs pay for all that.)
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Old 10-25-2016, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Why stop there? We should just haul our elderly out to the woods and leave them to die, right? They use up an inordinate amount of our health care capacity. Smokers, fatties, the elderly, sickly babies and housewives with Coca Cola habits should be sacrificed for the good of the healthy people in our society.
That is kind of what health insurance companies had been doing. If fact, that is why Medicare was created, because health insurance companies were dumping elderly people.
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Old 10-25-2016, 07:23 PM
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That is kind of what health insurance companies had been doing. If fact, that is why Medicare was created, because health insurance companies were dumping elderly people.
Nobody owes you help to insure against your stored up assets.

If you don't want to lose savings, then that's just tough. Your savings are there for rainy days, not just fun things. If you should lose it to ill health, then we're happy to cover you with Medicaid after you're depleted.

Translated: You buy health insurance because want to spend the rest of your savings on cool stuff--then you pay for that insurance yourself.



It's your insurance that's allowing providers to jack up their bills.
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:02 PM
 
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Now now, that is not what I asked. I asked you sure all Americans are obese. I know reading and comprehending is a problem for those such as you.

You see, lefties like to twist change words......
I see you have a problem with personal responsibility and comprehension.

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I think someone has no clue what they are talking about and then when they get called out, they, as a normal leftist does, they have to put those people down.
Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. It took me 45 seconds to see the nastiness you sling to those you disagree with by looking at your posting history.
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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There is a medical distinction to obesity. This isnt about being the healthiest... it's about making the obese pay their fair share.

That would be like 70% of the US population. Might be easier to give a discount to those of normal weight.
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