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Old 10-31-2016, 04:59 AM
 
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Jail? For what? This supposed FBI protocol to not release information of an investigation is just a tradition. The law actually says he can do it, and as an American citizen I think we should know about these things before casting our votes. I would say this whether the person was a Democrat or Republican.
Interfering in a presidential election 11 days before the election day is partisan and it sounds like he did break laws. As you say, should not happen to either candidate. He probably knew exactly what he was doing. Swaying voters, very dirty politics. He should be asked to resign. Not a bipartisan move on his part.

Trump spewing out venom before he had the facts just shows what kind of a leader he would be!!!
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Old 10-31-2016, 05:07 AM
 
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the question isn't whether Comey should resign (he did the right thing when he found out that emails were being withheld from Weiner's sex investigation).

There are people raising hell about the FBI "releasing" this information 10 days before an election. The better question is why the people who clearly lied about turning over everything in the original investigation are not at this instant under arrest for both perjury and obstruction of justice, including but not limited to Huma and Hillary herself!

That Lynch apparently tried to run interference and block release of this information*and so far has refused to issue a warrant for the data, if reports are to be believed,*is even*more outrageous as that refusal implicates not only herself in attempting to cover up a criminal act*but probably implicates Obama as well. *Oh by the way, if the device was seized pursuant to a lawful warrant (and it almost certainly either was or was*voluntarily*turned over by Weiner) and the original search was for "evidence related to sexting" then anything in a place or device that could reasonably hold evidence of said sexting is fair game if found by accident, so Lynch is almost-certainly out of luck here. *(Update: There are now news reports that Weiner gave*permission to search said laptop. *If true then there's nothing Lynch can do to block it, like it or not....)

Market ticker has a great piece on this, and I hope everybody reads it. Here's the link:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3412339
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Old 10-31-2016, 05:44 AM
 
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Interfering in a presidential election 11 days before the election day is partisan and it sounds like he did break laws. As you say, should not happen to either candidate. He probably knew exactly what he was doing. Swaying voters, very dirty politics. He should be asked to resign. Not a bipartisan move on his part.

Trump spewing out venom before he had the facts just shows what kind of a leader he would be!!!
"and it sounds like he did break laws."

Where do you come up with this?

"protocol" is NOT law.

Most people who are not pure partisan and have or had, Top Secret clearances have posted over and over the ACTUAL LAWS Hillary has broken, yet many on the left ignore those facts.

The fact that Comey did not recommend charging her does NOT change the fact that she DID break those laws.

Here is just 1 example:

"Cornell Law LibraryInteresting read! Wonder how many people are aware. Word for word from the Cornell Law Library - RE: H. Clinton

Apparently, the FBI forgot to visit the Cornell Law Library. Word for word from the Cornell Law Library Former United States Attorney General Michael Mukasey tells MSNBC that not only is Hillary Clinton's private email server illegal, it "disqualifies" her from holding any federal office. Very specifically points to one federal law, Title 18. Section 2071.

For those of us who do not have United States Code committed to memory, here's what it says and ask yourself, did Hillary do this?

“(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.”

Did she have custody of these document"

Yes, it explicitly states "shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States."

And this is just 1 law she broke and it this is for regular government documents.

In ADDITION, there are SEVERAL laws pertinent to the handling of Classified material that she broke.

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Old 10-31-2016, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Florida
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the question isn't whether Comey should resign (he did the right thing when he found out that emails were being withheld from Weiner's sex investigation).
Creating an anti-Hillary media storm was not the right thing. The right thing would have been to investigate them, and not run to the media to tell them what he intended to do. By doing that he influenced the outcome of the elections, which is a serious error. and a violation of the Hatch Act.

Yes, he should resign, or be removed. In the worst case he will be imprisoned.
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Old 10-31-2016, 06:14 AM
 
Location: east coast
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Is the weekend, this will be gone soon, what you have here is they found emails coming or going to Clinton's server, Comney had given testimony that the investigating was completed, by looking at those new found emails he had to amend his testimony, the odds of this emails being classified are kill, It was a cya strictly procedural action. This will blow over for most prior I am sure the alt right is going to keep pounding it but preaching to the choir.
Here we are Monday and Harry and Eric Holder are blowing up the spot...

I know it's always the case of "nothing to see here, move along" but there also comes a time when people need to accept whatever they have coming to them.
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Old 10-31-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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Interfering in a presidential election 11 days before the election day is partisan and it sounds like he did break laws. As you say, should not happen to either candidate. He probably knew exactly what he was doing. Swaying voters, very dirty politics. He should be asked to resign. Not a bipartisan move on his part.

Trump spewing out venom before he had the facts just shows what kind of a leader he would be!!!
I think the least guilty and most ethical person in Washington right now is probably James Comey. I'm sick of the media spin that places the entire blame of this thing on him instead of on Clinton and Abiden. They are the guilty parties, not James Comey. Yet all I heard about on the Sunday shows and the national news was Comey this, Comey that. It's the Russians! It's James Comey breaking tradition of the FBI and going against the DOJ (exactly what people are mad about is government collusion and corruption). It's anyone else's fault but Hillary Clinton.

And you think Donald Trump is dangerous? He would never get this kind of cover for any wrongdoing. As it should be.
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Old 10-31-2016, 06:19 AM
 
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Creating an anti-Hillary media storm was not the right thing. The right thing would have been to investigate them, and not run to the media to tell them what he intended to do. By doing that he influenced the outcome of the elections, which is a serious error. and a violation of the Hatch Act.

Yes, he should resign, or be removed. In the worst case he will be imprisoned.
He didn't affect the outcome at all. Early voting has already started, and people who are for Clinton are far more outraged at Comey than they are at Clinton. And Comey knows very well that the media will cover for Clinton. He was more worried about his own reputation, and perhaps his own conscience.

Spin all you want, but the only guilty party here is Hillary Clinton.
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Old 10-31-2016, 06:26 AM
 
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The Hatch Act was passed to "minimize the ability of individual government employees to use their office in a manner that influences the electoral process."

Comey communicated with Congress, "knowing that none of the e-mails were to or from Secretary Clinton," if they would incriminate her or prove her her innocence, or if they were relevant at all.

Thus is "difficult to understand the argument that the value to public discourse outweighed the potential prejudice to Clinton."

However, "Comey's letter has inflamed public passions -- and reinvigorated the public debate -- over Clinton's e-mail scandal, a matter that, even with no substance, can only redound to the detriment of Clinton and the benefit of Donald Trump."

What is the Hatch Act -- and did James Comey break it? - CNNPolitics.com

While blabbing about emails that may or may not be relevant, Comey is staying surprisingly mum about the FBI investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia.
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Old 10-31-2016, 06:40 AM
 
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The Hatch Act was passed to "minimize the ability of individual government employees to use their office in a manner that influences the electoral process."

Comey communicated with Congress, "knowing that none of the e-mails were to or from Secretary Clinton," if they would incriminate her or prove her her innocence, or if they were relevant at all.

Thus is "difficult to understand the argument that the value to public discourse outweighed the potential prejudice to Clinton."

However, "Comey's letter has inflamed public passions -- and reinvigorated the public debate -- over Clinton's e-mail scandal, a matter that, even with no substance, can only redound to the detriment of Clinton and the benefit of Donald Trump."

What is the Hatch Act -- and did James Comey break it? - CNNPolitics.com

While blabbing about emails that may or may not be relevant, Comey is staying surprisingly mum about the FBI investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia.
Of course they are staying quiet about ties to Russia, because any supposed ties Trump has, Hillary has far more through the Clinton Foundation. Wouldn't want to open up that can of worms.
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Old 10-31-2016, 06:41 AM
 
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Interfering in a presidential election 11 days before the election day is partisan and it sounds like he did break laws. As you say, should not happen to either candidate. He probably knew exactly what he was doing. Swaying voters, very dirty politics. He should be asked to resign. Not a bipartisan move on his part.

Trump spewing out venom before he had the facts just shows what kind of a leader he would be!!!
Just suppose those 30 thousand missing emails ended up on this laptop. If that is the case, Comey had no choice but to reopen the case now, not after the election.
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