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Ultimately, to win a war, you have to know your enemy and know yourself. Make no mistake about it. Liberalism, in all its forms, is THE enemy. In order for conservatives to defeat this enemy, we must use all means at our disposal short of bloodshed. The ultimate enemy is not Communism, Radical Islam, or Russia.
The USA fought a cold war against communism because the liberals started it. Look at what the liberal media is trying to do - stir up hatred against Russia and start another cold war, when we already have enough enemies as it is. What will be the ultimate result of such a policy? Increased alignment between China and Russia, as Russia has few other allies in the world, and will inevitably be driven into the Chinese camp. Radical Islam doesn't hate the average American. It hates the liberal internationalists who have interfered in their nations and have sought to extends its influence into their lands. What does the typical terrorist have against the farmer in Nebraska? Nothing much. The terrorists attacked NYC, the symbol of liberalism.
Ultimately, we are fighting a war against two enemies. Radical Islam is the first, proximate enemy, because it wants to kill us. And so we have to fight because of self-preservation and our own security. But it is the ideology of liberalism that is the real enemy. It is the reason why we are involved in all of these conflicts around the world to begin with, why our laws are written by corporations (Obamacare), why our inner cities are collapsing, why we are losing our manufacturing, and why all of our nation's wealth is being transferred to the wealthy elites and upper middle class, instead of the working class, middle class, and average people. It is why Mexican immigrants are pouring into our nation, and why we haven't been able to do anything about it.
Remember. If Trump wins, the first great battle against liberalism will have been won, but the war will continue. They will do everything they can to hold onto their power, like every reactionary class does. If Trump loses, we must not lose heart, and build a coalition of anti-liberal forces that will ultimately be able to achieve electoral victory, and excise this cancer from our nation once and for all. Radical Islam must be defeated. But when that is done, we must face the real enemy - and this enemy is at home.
History will remember the Trump campaign as the beginning of a revolution against liberalism and the liberal ruling class. We are the revolutionaries, and they are the reactionaries.
Trump 2016
Ok hope for you though, you can still keep your medicare, social security, and other liberal programs.
I always thought it was ironic that while I was growing up, Washington was wasting trillions of dollars (and American lives) on the Empire Military to supposedly fight against the threat of communism/socialism, while ever since the 1960s, Washington politicians (and the Pravda media) were ignoring the majority of the American people and turning the nation strongly Socialist--following exactly the path that countless other nations have already taken to abysmal depths of low quality of life, no prosperity, and no personal freedom.
But it makes sense: Socialism is a disaster for the 99% "little guys," but like in any empire, the Ruling Class are the winners in the "winner take all" economy. As Hillary said in one of her Wall Street crony speeches (which was NOT supposed to be made public), her family’s rising wealth had made her “kind of far removed from the struggles of the middle class" (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us...pagewanted=all). No doubt the level of understatement was meant to be an inside joke, and I guarantee that the fatcat audience laughed like the madmen (actually, psychopaths) that they are.
You want to talk about ties to Wall Street?! How about having an ex Haliburton executive as your VP??? How about having an oil tycoon as VP and then as president??? How about having a private equity guy as the nominee?? And how about having a NYC real estate developer as a nominee???
The fact that you somehow think Obama has ties to Wall Street shows how detached you are from reality.
The fact is that Hillary has MUCH LESS ties to Wall Street than most of the nominees we traditionally get. There are very dumb people who freak out over a $250k speaking fee. That's freaking cheap for what GS got in return - a Q&A with a former Secretary of State regarding the situation in Asia where GS held many investment.
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Really, if you do not think that Obama and Hillary are just as tied in with wall street as Bush was than we have nothing to discuss, especially since it has been widely reported that wall street was the ones that picked Obama's cabinet. Maybe you should do some research instead of just following along with party lines. the corruption started getting worse under Bill Clinton, and has just continued with nobody to try to stop it since he was elected. Too bad everybody including you is more concerned with their party winning than they are about reality of what our government is doing to us, on both sides of the aisle.
WOW! Who knew that some consider a lying NYC Liberal as the vanguard of the alleged war against Liberalism?
He might have been a lying NYC liberal at some point, but he's seen the light. Now he's a NYC populist/conservative...you go to war with the army you have not the one you want. Most liberals have just been brainwashed and a lot of them will wake up, very soon, and realize that they've been had. Trump's one of them. Think about it...most of the institutions that influence and shape our worldview are controlled by the liberal elite, or are actively working for them. Our educational institutions, the media, etc. Knowing what we know about human psychology, why wouldn't these institutions have conditioned a large majority of the populace to accept and adopt its worldview?
NO, we are at war with progressivism! A nice word for communism.
The left keep proving they live in a fictional reality reserved for the herd.
MOO
Trump isn't the solution. He is just the lesser (much lesser) of two evils.
I truly hope he follows through and drains the swamp and resets DC constitutionally. THAT is my hope.
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter
Who is "we?" You French or something?
This ain't no war. Your side is hemorrhaging...you're not even competitive.
"your side"
THAT IS THE PROBLEM with progressive imbeciles. THEY see everything as "us verses them" even when them is us.
We are at war with people who make everything a war.
We are at odds with people who only care what THEY can get out of everyone else.
WE, as in all of us who care to see the obvious rather than accepting the lies being spoon fed to them; the people who deem themselves "smart" simply because THEY couldn't care less about reality.
I'm an American, just like you. You have the right to be as ridiculous as you'd like, but I have to right to see it for what it is.
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Originally Posted by Ferd
almost a direct quote from Saul Alynski... wait what?
Progressive is just a nice name for communist - they hold Alinsky in the highest regard.
Ultimately, to win a war, you have to know your enemy and know yourself. Make no mistake about it. Liberalism, in all its forms, is THE enemy. In order for conservatives to defeat this enemy, we must use all means at our disposal short of bloodshed. The ultimate enemy is not Communism, Radical Islam, or Russia.
The USA fought a cold war against communism because the liberals started it. Look at what the liberal media is trying to do - stir up hatred against Russia and start another cold war, when we already have enough enemies as it is. What will be the ultimate result of such a policy? Increased alignment between China and Russia, as Russia has few other allies in the world, and will inevitably be driven into the Chinese camp. Radical Islam doesn't hate the average American. It hates the liberal internationalists who have interfered in their nations and have sought to extends its influence into their lands. What does the typical terrorist have against the farmer in Nebraska? Nothing much. The terrorists attacked NYC, the symbol of liberalism.
Ultimately, we are fighting a war against two enemies. Radical Islam is the first, proximate enemy, because it wants to kill us. And so we have to fight because of self-preservation and our own security. But it is the ideology of liberalism that is the real enemy. It is the reason why we are involved in all of these conflicts around the world to begin with, why our laws are written by corporations (Obamacare), why our inner cities are collapsing, why we are losing our manufacturing, and why all of our nation's wealth is being transferred to the wealthy elites and upper middle class, instead of the working class, middle class, and average people. It is why Mexican immigrants are pouring into our nation, and why we haven't been able to do anything about it.
Remember. If Trump wins, the first great battle against liberalism will have been won, but the war will continue. They will do everything they can to hold onto their power, like every reactionary class does. If Trump loses, we must not lose heart, and build a coalition of anti-liberal forces that will ultimately be able to achieve electoral victory, and excise this cancer from our nation once and for all. Radical Islam must be defeated. But when that is done, we must face the real enemy - and this enemy is at home.
History will remember the Trump campaign as the beginning of a revolution against liberalism and the liberal ruling class. We are the revolutionaries, and they are the reactionaries.
Trump 2016
Agreed. But, we must convince MANY average (non-political) people that this is true. And then motivate those people to stop cooperating with liberals. Political correctness must be reversed.
Ultimately, to win a war, you have to know your enemy and know yourself. Make no mistake about it. Liberalism, in all its forms, is THE enemy. In order for conservatives to defeat this enemy, we must use all means at our disposal short of bloodshed. The ultimate enemy is not Communism, Radical Islam, or Russia.
The USA fought a cold war against communism because the liberals started it. Look at what the liberal media is trying to do - stir up hatred against Russia and start another cold war, when we already have enough enemies as it is. What will be the ultimate result of such a policy? Increased alignment between China and Russia, as Russia has few other allies in the world, and will inevitably be driven into the Chinese camp. Radical Islam doesn't hate the average American. It hates the liberal internationalists who have interfered in their nations and have sought to extends its influence into their lands. What does the typical terrorist have against the farmer in Nebraska? Nothing much. The terrorists attacked NYC, the symbol of liberalism.
Ultimately, we are fighting a war against two enemies. Radical Islam is the first, proximate enemy, because it wants to kill us. And so we have to fight because of self-preservation and our own security. But it is the ideology of liberalism that is the real enemy. It is the reason why we are involved in all of these conflicts around the world to begin with, why our laws are written by corporations (Obamacare), why our inner cities are collapsing, why we are losing our manufacturing, and why all of our nation's wealth is being transferred to the wealthy elites and upper middle class, instead of the working class, middle class, and average people. It is why Mexican immigrants are pouring into our nation, and why we haven't been able to do anything about it.
Remember. If Trump wins, the first great battle against liberalism will have been won, but the war will continue. They will do everything they can to hold onto their power, like every reactionary class does. If Trump loses, we must not lose heart, and build a coalition of anti-liberal forces that will ultimately be able to achieve electoral victory, and excise this cancer from our nation once and for all. Radical Islam must be defeated. But when that is done, we must face the real enemy - and this enemy is at home.
History will remember the Trump campaign as the beginning of a revolution against liberalism and the liberal ruling class. We are the revolutionaries, and they are the reactionaries.
Trump 2016
Alright, let's just take this down in order. It's always hard to know where to begin with **** like this.
Firstly, liberalism in any form is nearly all of American thought. This includes Libertarians, progressives, neoliberals, and conservatives. All of liberalisms forms is a lot of ideologies, of which nearly all dominant ideologies within the Western world are at the very least heavily influenced by. The thing is, you appear to know this or not have a clear idea of who you're against as you state in your next paragraph that liberals started the Cold War. Based on what you're saying, this sounds like it was true on accident. Liberals did indeed start the Cold War. That said, it was supported by liberals and conservatives. The issue with 'liberals vs Liberals' is that it's the same word. I prefer to call the Democrats social liberals or progressives rather than just calling them liberals. Republicans are conservative liberals. But make no mistake, both progressive and conservatives liberals supported the Cold War. Ironically, most modern progressives, who are often labeled as liberals, would be more against the Cold War than conservatives.
Which leads to the next point; you state liberals started the War on Terror, and again, true on accident. Technically, Bush started the War on Terror. Bush is, in my opinion, actually kind of hard to give a label to. He had elements of neoconservatism, but didn't seem actually invested in the ideals all that much. Somewhat of a neoliberal, but also, not consistently so. Long story short, he was just unqualified, but regardless, Bush started that war, even if he was just a puppet for the neocons who definitely would support such a war. Bare in mind, a neocon is a kind of liberal and it's underlying philosophy is that military intervention in foreign affairs to protect national interests is entirely justifiable. And yes, Obama and Hillary Clinton both seem to have a foot in this ideology. But this still means you can't blame it on "liberals" in the context of the Democratic party. And given that many conservatives on this board seem to think that liberals like radical Islam, it creates a web of contradictions.
And ironically, you both say that radical Islam wants to kill and and that it doesn't want to kill us. You criticize "liberals" for starting the War on Terror then say we need to keep up with the War on Terror until it's won. From my point of view, it's ****ing hilarious that you think you're even making a point. You go on to mention some other problems, and again, these aren't really the fault of 'liberalism' in the context you seem to be using it. An example, laws written by corporate interests is more the fault of neoliberalism (the philosophy on Ronald Reagan... suck on that) as it states that the government can't tell corporations they can't interfere with politics because freedom, which ironically destroys freedom.
And I'll end there. I could point out that you never once explain HOW Trump is the solution to all these, simply that he is. But I'm so used to people doing that that by now, it doesn't really phase me.
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