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Old 11-10-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Coal will run out, it is a finite resource
Not anytime soon:

"As of January 1, 2016, the demonstrated reserve base (DRB) was estimated to contain 477 billion short tons. In the United States, coal resources are larger than remaining natural gas and oil resources, based on total British thermal units (Btus)."


U.S. Coal Reserves
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:35 AM
 
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If you're so sure of that, lets put a coal burning plant in your neighborhood, and let you breathe in the smoke, and let it contaminate your soil and groundwater, and see how you feel
I have one in my house. It's a niche but there may be as many as half a million households in the northeast heating with Pennsylvania anthracite coal. Anthracite is "smokeless" , the ashes which are mostly silicate have heavy metal values slightly above "dirt". They are fantastic for soil remediation in the garden if you have hard clay soil.

This is not mine but it could be.


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Old 11-10-2016, 10:35 AM
 
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No, let the free market run its course, coal is dead. A Trump intervention into an industry that's no longer economically feasible would be an outrageous use of state power; this is coming from a liberal.

Tell that to Japan, Korea and Taiwan.
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:37 AM
 
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Tell that to Japan, Korea and Taiwan.
South Africa just built a new coal plant last year..and I think there's another in the works.

South Africa Opens New Power Plant | Zuma Coal Johannesburg Electricity
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:40 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Coal mining employs few people but I think the coal industry became an emblem for many blue collar Americans who feel under attack. When Hillary drew an applause for promising to put miners out of work I think every factory worker was offended and felt that Democrats were threatening their ability to feed their family. The Democrats used to be the party of choice for miners, factory workers, auto workers, etc.
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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Actually South Africa just built a new coal plant last year :

South Africa Opens New Power Plant | Zuma Coal Johannesburg Electricity

..and there is another one in the works :

Acwa group preferred bidder for S Africa power plant

Right, and Japan, Korea and Taiwan have no coal reserves and rely heavily on it for power generation.

Coal is far from 'dead'. Reminds me of the 'peak oil' claims in the 1970's.
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:44 AM
 
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If you're so sure of that, lets put a coal burning plant in your neighborhood, and let you breathe in the smoke, and let it contaminate your soil and groundwater, and see how you feel
Sure thing, I would love one.

You were saying? Whats that?
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:58 AM
 
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Coal mining employs few people but I think the coal industry became an emblem for many blue collar Americans who feel under attack. When Hillary drew an applause for promising to put miners out of work I think every factory worker was offended and felt that Democrats were threatening their ability to feed their family. The Democrats used to be the party of choice for miners, factory workers, auto workers, etc.
I think you are spot on with your analysis and this is one of the major reasons Hillary lost, the Democrat party has moved far to the left abandoning middle class working families.
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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Sure thing, I would love one.
If you live in the northeast research residential coal heating, you may be very surprised what you find.
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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The utility that serves my area just made a big deal out of shutting down two huge, modern coal plants and replacing those gigawatts with wind and solar (pipe dream power).

Now that we have some common sense in Washington, can things like this be headed off? Might be a good time to buy stock in railroads and coal mining.
Yes, by working to remove EPA regulations that limit the power plants and the coal industry, coal is plentiful and we need to work on developing clean coal technology. Wind and solar have there place to an extent as supplemental sources, but it will be a long time before they are reliable sources of energy to be used on a large scale.
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