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I would have voted for Bernie but Hillary pushed him aside. He would have won by a landslide against Trump. Bernie is an honest, sincere & a peoples' person. Democrats lost a lot of us by manipulating the primaries. Well, my enemy's enemy is my friend.
I would have voted for Bernie but Hillary pushed him aside. He would have won by a landslide against Trump. Bernie is an honest, sincere & a peoples' person. Democrats lost a lot of us by manipulating the primaries. Well, my enemy's enemy is my friend.
That kind of thinking works against what you want. A lot of us wanted Bernie. When it wasn't possible to get him, we stopped and thought about it. Lesser of two evils, who would that be? Well, Bernie supported Hillary and at least with her, things wouldn't have changed. She would have appointed decent people to the Supreme Court too, probably the same ones Bernie would have wanted. They are appointed for LIFE, you know! Trump will appoint the law of the land for LIFE.
You don't choose the opposite of what you want. You go for second best even if you have to hold your nose when you do it. Some states were lost because of people who wrote names in instead of just voting for Hillary. Four years of her would have been MUCH safer and easier to endure than what we will be getting.
That kind of thinking works against what you want. A lot of us wanted Bernie. When it wasn't possible to get him, we stopped and thought about it. Lesser of two evils, who would that be? Well, Bernie supported Hillary and at least with her, things wouldn't have changed. She would have appointed decent people to the Supreme Court too, probably the same ones Bernie would have wanted. They are appointed for LIFE, you know! Trump will appoint the law of the land for LIFE.
You don't choose the opposite of what you want. You go for second best even if you have to hold your nose when you do it. Some states were lost because of people who wrote names in instead of just voting for Hillary. Four years of her would have been MUCH safer and easier to endure than what we will be getting.
It's over though. She's not president. Republicans control congress. I think that democrats have to hope Trump will buck the republican congress and enact his agenda, not theirs. Because his agenda is NOT an ideological Republican agenda. At this point we have no control and we need to hope that Donald Trump is serious when he says he will be a president for all Americans.
There are some aspects of his agenda we won't like, but we need to have a seat at the table.
That kind of thinking works against what you want. A lot of us wanted Bernie. When it wasn't possible to get him, we stopped and thought about it. Lesser of two evils, who would that be? Well, Bernie supported Hillary and at least with her, things wouldn't have changed. She would have appointed decent people to the Supreme Court too, probably the same ones Bernie would have wanted. They are appointed for LIFE, you know! Trump will appoint the law of the land for LIFE.
You don't choose the opposite of what you want. You go for second best even if you have to hold your nose when you do it. Some states were lost because of people who wrote names in instead of just voting for Hillary. Four years of her would have been MUCH safer and easier to endure than what we will be getting.
Nope, i see her as Merkel & was afraid she would bring in a sea of refugees here & destroy us like Europe. When Bernie was in the race I was a fan but if he had been adamant about bringing in refugees & keeping illegals then I would have voted for Trump even with Bernie against him. For me the immigration, obamacare & refugees were big deal breakers. But I believe Bernie would have definitely won. Hillary is unlikeable & controversial.
We'll see. I think it's only going to get uglier as time progresses because we aren't truly a United people.
That could very well be true. We have more in common as a people than we have that separates the nation. I think the thing that would bring not just the United States together, but the world as a whole would be a large scale alien invasion; from a race that was not human. That would pi@@ us off and bring people together just to stop it.
As a people we all need to eat, we all need rest periods:
our blood is all the same and only has 4 blood types either positive or negative for all people regardless of color/race/ or gender:
We all love our children and want to be able to protect out children as much as possible:
We all expect to be able to live our lives with out fear of being attacked, that our homes are safe place to live:
We all expect that if we are innocent then we will be found not guilty if we ever had to go to court:
We all expect that the rights of the citizen will be upheld by the very groups weather it be the military or the police since those groups work for the people as a whole.
We expect that if we work hard all of our lives, if we have saved up for retirement, that the very funds that we have put our money in all of our lives will in-fact have the money we put in to be there. And not have been thrown away by bad financial investors.
Most of the difference we experience as a people are now ideology rather than one of physical need.
We're all Americans but that means nothing. We don't have shared values anymore.
Well said.
For some of us it extends into immediate (and/or extended) families too. In an I Remember MPTV video I've posted with the Bartolotta brothers being interviewed, I was taken by (and appreciated) the wealthy and successful brothers saying that due to their Italian family culture, their brotherhood comes first, the restaurant, money, success is "all noise" compared to that.
Which runs complete opposite to the mixed-race family culture I came from. Between my brothers and me our brotherhood runs dead last. Catholicism ran in the back too. What was and remains most important--running up in the front--is obedience and recitation of the holy dogmas of the Democratic Party. While I always voted Democrat that never sufficed enough, because I broke ranks on a few issues I incurred hatred from grade school years on from them and my parents. Salvation was to come from the Democratic Party only and that was it.
My enemies live in the USA and they number in the millions. They hate me and I hate them. And never shall it change.
That kind of thinking works against what you want. A lot of us wanted Bernie. When it wasn't possible to get him, we stopped and thought about it. Lesser of two evils, who would that be? Well, Bernie supported Hillary and at least with her, things wouldn't have changed. She would have appointed decent people to the Supreme Court too, probably the same ones Bernie would have wanted. They are appointed for LIFE, you know! Trump will appoint the law of the land for LIFE.
You don't choose the opposite of what you want. You go for second best even if you have to hold your nose when you do it. Some states were lost because of people who wrote names in instead of just voting for Hillary. Four years of her would have been MUCH safer and easier to endure than what we will be getting.
I am not naive enough to believe ONLY Republicans voted Donald Trump.
The result is shocking, but the reason is simple. The establishment GROSSLY underestimated how angry the country was.
People hate the establishment so much, they are willing to elect somebody like Donald Trump.
Ok I'll give you that. Not sure that's really what we should build a country on though.
Lol. America has always been based on trying to get something for nothing.
We stole a whole bunch of land from the natives and converted it into plantations. Then we stole a whole bunch of labor from imported African slaves. Then we built a transcontinental railroad with labor stolen from desperate Chinese immigrants. Then we industrialized and stole a whole bunch of labor from poor desperate European immigrants. Then when those workers revolted and unionized, we moved those factories to China and Mexico and stole labor from the desperate people there. Then we imported a whole bunch of desperate immigrants from Mexico and stole their labor to roof our houses and mow our lawns. Then we let our banks get rich by inflating a real estate bubble, and then socialized the losses when the bubble popped.
Finally, we elected a guy who got rich by building casinos and speculating on real estate.
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I don't think we are the same. There is red america and blue america, and the two sides hate each other (well, mainly red hating blue, and blue just not liking red). I get very uncomfortable with all the rhetoric being spewed in these forums since yesterday, makes me question the world we live in
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