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Old 11-11-2016, 02:41 PM
 
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When it comes to the presidential vote, all votes are not and never have been equal. If you want the biggest value for your vote, you simply have to move to Wyoming.
Nah, I would say move to a swing state. Wyoming only has 3 electoral votes and is pretty solidly red. A candidate isn't going very far with a Wyoming, even if the system is intended to benefit those living in a Wyoming compared to those living in heavily populated areas.

Swing states decide elections. That's where your vote really matters and where all citizens should actually go out and vote regardless of party affiliation for that reason.
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Old 11-11-2016, 03:01 PM
 
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Exactly. You can't look at these results and say "if it weren't for the Electoral College, Hillary would have won." Maybe, but maybe not. The rules of the game influence how the players play. In a "popular vote winner takes all"' scenario, the candidates would have campaigned differently and many voters would have voted differently. I know I would have voted differently.
That's exactly what I was going to post. The entire campaign process, voter turnout, and final election results would have been DIFFERENT if we operated with a popular vote system.

But we don't!! It is completely disingenuous to take the results that came about from our Electoral College based election process, and then try to apply those results to a different system. The argument that some are trying to make is completely irrelevant, and demonstrates an embarrassing lack of logic or understanding of our election process.
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