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Pandora's Box is already opened. ACA was a disaster, but the underlying idea is hard to undo. This is why every Republican candidate said exactly the same thing: "Repeal and replace." They know they can't just dump it. They have to transition those already on Obamacare onto something else.
Replace it with what?
Republicans don't have a principled opposition to Obamacare. They don't like Obamacare because it represented a legislative victory for the Obama administration and Democrats. It's the same way Republicans expressed faux-outrage over the Obama stimulus package but are completely mum about Trump's proposed $1 trillion in federal spending. LOL.
As the old saying goes "You can't cure stupid" . If you naysayers stopped to think, 20 million people aren't going to lose their healthcare, they will get it replaced with something that works and most likely will be cheaper. Nobody likes obamacare, it just isn't working and the dems knew that going in. As usual you liberals rant and cry without thinking !
Yeah the republicans want their own crony healthcare plan, which like Obamacare, is not to be confused with actual health care.
That is correct, the ACA is insurance not healthcare. Trump may not be the republican or lets say a crony like many may think, lets hope not. The States regulate insurance, without getting overly complicated, just for starters, I say place health insurance mandates on the State, not the individual, this would at the very least kick the IRS to the curb as far as being an enforcer. Place mandates on the State in order to force cross state competition, mandates that compel States to have all their citizens covered. Compel mandates that would eliminate gerrymandering by for-profit insurance in any given State or county.
As the old saying goes "You can't cure stupid" . If you naysayers stopped to think, 20 million people aren't going to lose their healthcare, they will get it replaced with something that works and most likely will be cheaper. Nobody likes obamacare, it just isn't working and the dems knew that going in. As usual you liberals rant and cry without thinking !
Replaced with what? For years now we have heard repeal and replace. There have been 50 something attempts to repeal but nothing on the replace part.
, they will get it replaced with something that works and most likely will be cheaper. N
I've got a car to replace yours.... its is cheaper and better than the one you already own. I just cannot tell you what it is... trust me.
Yup... sounds just as stupid when it comes from a car salesman. Yes. I agree with you. You really cannot cure stupid... especially when you buy into marketing that has no real quality underlying product.
I surely hope that they do improve on the system. I surmise it really won't be much different than Obamacare.. problems and all. The issue isn't health insurance.. it is health care.
I've got a car to replace yours.... its is cheaper and better than the one you already own. I just cannot tell you what it is... trust me.
Yup... sounds just as stupid when it comes from a car salesman. Yes. I agree with you. You really cannot cure stupid... especially when you buy into marketing that has no real quality underlying product.
I surely hope that they do improve on the system. I surmise it really won't be much different than Obamacare.. problems and all. The issue isn't health insurance.. it is health care.
Pandora's Box is already opened. ACA was a disaster, but the underlying idea is hard to undo. This is why every Republican candidate said exactly the same thing: "Repeal and replace." They know they can't just dump it. They have to transition those already on Obamacare onto something else.
ACA is a lot like Social Security and Federal Welfare. Easy enough to put in place but impossible to ever take away.
Liberal Democrats are ALL ABOUT Trojan horses aren't they?
There is a word for these types of strategies: Insidious (definition - "proceeding in a gradual, subtle way, but with harmful effects")
As the old saying goes "You can't cure stupid" . If you naysayers stopped to think, 20 million people aren't going to lose their healthcare, they will get it replaced with something that works and most likely will be cheaper. Nobody likes obamacare, it just isn't working and the dems knew that going in. As usual you liberals rant and cry without thinking !
My thoughts on this have already been addressed by usayit. Let me just say, everyone wants more coverage for less money. It won't work that way. One of the biggest "failures" of the ACA, in my opinion, is that that's what was promised. Unfortunately, more coverage does cost more. Now I think it unethical to sell policies that really don't cover much of anything, and I think there should be mandates on coverages, but it's not going to be cheap.
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Originally Posted by jmking
That is correct, the ACA is insurance not healthcare. Trump may not be the republican or lets say a crony like many may think, lets hope not. The States regulate insurance, without getting overly complicated, just for starters, I say place health insurance mandates on the State, not the individual, this would at the very least kick the IRS to the curb as far as being an enforcer. Place mandates on the State in order to force cross state competition, mandates that compel States to have all their citizens covered. Compel mandates that would eliminate gerrymandering by for-profit insurance in any given State or county.
I have yet to understand how this "cross state competition" will improve anything. NO ONE, in the 8 years or so we've been talking about this, has shown how that would work.
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