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Old 12-19-2016, 08:53 PM
 
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I'm all for what ever system doesn't "subsidize" the previously un-insurable by making the middle class part of the lower class.
But then how would liberals make six-figure incomes as bureaucrats administering their failed programs?

 
Old 12-19-2016, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I haven't the faintest idea how many people could do that long term. Is that supposed to be important? I already told you, if your cost is that high, it's because you're using high amounts of healthcare resources. You're probably one of the group of people who is known as a "super user" of healthcare, meaning you're someone who costs far in excess of what they pay in insurance that the rest of us balance out.
You also haven't the faintest idea how COBRA works. See this: https://www.verywell.com/how-much-do...e-cost-1738554. Nothing to do with how much health care you're using.
 
Old 12-19-2016, 09:02 PM
 
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Removing Medicaid from it actually doesn't change what I said. A large group of people who can't afford a product doesn't make them all able to afford it. Also, a large chunk of people on Medicaid don't belong on it. Also, there's a reason Obama made Obamacare into Medicaid.
Not denying that it could happen as states differ in their qualifications. But having taken care of Medicaid patients since day #1 I have heard about, seen or suspected very little abuse. No doubt that a few have successfully hidden or divested themselves of wealth in order to enroll.

The Medicaid expansion is part of Obamacare.
 
Old 12-19-2016, 09:02 PM
 
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You also haven't the faintest idea how COBRA works. See this: https://www.verywell.com/how-much-do...e-cost-1738554. Nothing to do with how much health care you're using.
That's neat, why am I visiting "verywell.com" again?
 
Old 12-19-2016, 09:03 PM
 
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having taken care of Medicaid patients since day #1 I have ...
...discovered that a lot of them are unemployed and/or use drugs?
 
Old 12-19-2016, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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...discovered that a lot of them are unemployed and/or use drugs?
Way to put words in his mouth
 
Old 12-19-2016, 09:09 PM
 
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Way to put words in his mouth
The question mark denotes that I asked a question. Sorry you're having trouble with punctuation.


P.S. If he's honest, he'll acknowledge that physicians don't want to see Medicaid patients. In general, the people who see them are forced to, although there are a small minority of people who do so willingly.
 
Old 12-19-2016, 09:14 PM
 
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...discovered that a lot of them are unemployed and/or use drugs?
A lot!
 
Old 12-19-2016, 09:15 PM
 
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Way to put words in his mouth
They do.
 
Old 12-19-2016, 09:17 PM
 
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A lot!
See, even though I disagree with your political beliefs, I can at least acknowledge that you're not one of these serial-lying liberals. Good job.
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