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I actually wouldn't say that about them specifically...they did say they advocate it being voluntary, which I completely support, even if I have no desire to be a part of it. I wouldn't stop anyone from joining a commune if they chose it.
But you're definitely right when it comes to state enforced socialism and communism.
You consider any kind of government to be "socialism" and "communism."
And yet you still choose to live in mainstream society instead of moving off-grid.
Actually, they do. The fact that you can't comprehend that exemplifies exactly why the Dems lost so astoundingly on November 8th.
Really? Him not believing the points you made to be valid is why the Democrats lost in this election. I mean, I'm an idiot; you're trying to be clever, but do you not think that having a candidate who worked with the party to suppress other candidates and who was constantly surrounded in controversy, all the while, facing no punishment and not even offering an apology once allegations were effectively proven true could have had more to do with the Democrat's loss?
Doesn't matter what "exactly" the type you are, what you are if you are such is one who believes in subjugating the people to serve a collectivist ideal and regardless of your level of dedication to that subjugation, it is subjugation none the less and incompatible with a liberty based society.
Wow. How forward thinking. You're actually pointing out that voluntary might actually mean forceful! I never considered that before. You are truly a linguist who is ahead of the times.
You know what, you've changed me. I'm gonna start being like you an exclusively reading Breitbart. **** other opinions. If you're not me, you're a communist! And that's bad because you aren't me. And if you aren't me you're a communist. And that's bad because you aren't me. And if you aren't me...
Grow the **** up. All I'm saying is that the rights of workers shouldn't cast aside so we as a nation can brag about our penis... err, GDP.
Look back at Confederate Antebellum Ideology, the wealthy felt that the poor were "the service class", and they wanted to keep it that way.
These are the same peoples who's ancestry came from Autocratic systems, and Monarchy's. They came to America and tried to create a faux "elitist system" based on acquisition of "money". and then became obsessed with trying to create a class and cast system, they went so far as to engage in the acts of slavery and indentured servitude.
Progress does not fit in their model of idea, because progress provide an avenue for people to abolish the class and cast system. and Liberalism is a threat becaue liberal implies and infers the function of "equality" to have firm footing.
Their ignorance is overt!!!
They have no idea what is and why Royalty existed as a system.
The premise of Royalty, was not about "money", it was about the establishment of secure kingdoms, provisions for and of the people and a system of governance to support civil community while providing protections from outside forces, as well as establishing a taxation system to support their empire and all its concerns, as well as build a foundation that would support and expansion of the empire to encompass more people into the civility of community.
Liberal minded people have submitted to the Conservative Minded (those who want to conserve such a way of life), Most of the people who push for the Conservative Agenda, are unaware of the cast and class system they fight to uphold also is the same system that is designed to keep them "indentured".
Liberal Minded people must get over being intimidated by the anguished wrath of the Conservative Minded and their stagnation aims to minimize the premise of full circle equality.
America continues to struggle with this on multiple levels, from race to education and the madness of the uneducated whom fight to remain being the pawns that fight the battles of the wealthy, in their aims to protect the wealthy retaining their wealth. It's like a culturally inherited mindset, as if its in their gene to pass it on from generation to generation.
Liberal/Progressive minded people are as you said:
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"Progressivism is a philosophy based on the Idea of Progress, which asserts that advancement in science, technology, economic development, and social organization are vital to improve the human condition."
I actually wouldn't say that about them specifically...they did say they advocate it being voluntary, which I completely support, even if I have no desire to be a part of it. I wouldn't stop anyone from joining a commune if they chose it.
But you're definitely right when it comes to state enforced socialism and communism.
That is a lie, they say that because they know if they admitted they were going to force people, most would object. This is the deception, to lure people into thinking its a good thing. The fact is, they can not survive without forced participation. This is why these systems eventually collapse, people stop working for themselves because they realize any extra effort is confiscated in the name of equality. When there is no longer any achievers, and everyone is taking more than they put in, the system collapses and people starve (and would jump ship). These systems can only survive for the length they do by holding people at gunpoint.
Really? Him not believing the points you made to be valid is why the Democrats lost in this election. I mean, I'm an idiot; you're trying to be clever, but do you not think that having a candidate who worked with the party to suppress other candidates and who was constantly surrounded in controversy, all the while, facing no punishment and not even offering an apology once allegations were effectively proven true could have had more to do with the Democrat's loss?
Not for generational tried and true Dems. The Midwest 'blue wall' stood for 3 decades before it crumbled this election. Are you suggesting those lifelong Dem voters would rather the GOP have the Presidency, Senate, House, and the ability to install up to 4 SCOTUS Justices rather than vote for a flawed Dem candidate?
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OK, Americans... are you on board with that?
I'm absoultely on board if I don't get stuck with a $100k hospital bill that would bankrupt me, or if younger people don't get saddled with up to $200k of student loan debt!
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News flash to the right wingers and libertarians here, if there were no taxes or government, we would still be living in the dark ages, it takes society to bring about all the progress and infastructure we have!
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