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So again, for the unhinged (assuming here) Hillary supporters that are up in arms over this, did you already forget that Hillary shared Top Secret info with her daughter, Huma, her lawyers, and IT staff? Do you prefer this over someone who follows the rules and asks for clearance for the people that he would like to discuss these things with in the future?
You don't know that you are uttering campaign battle chatter !!!!! that's all it amounts to. Geez!!!!!!!!!
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So again, for the unhinged (assuming here) Hillary supporters that are up in arms over this, did you already forget that Hillary shared Top Secret info with her daughter, Huma, her lawyers, and IT staff? Do you prefer this over someone who follows the rules and asks for clearance for the people that he would like to discuss these things with in the future?
Again, the President of the United States does not have a security clearance, or need one, and by law may not employ family members in the federal government.
This has nothing to do with the Hildebeast or her minions.
The President is a constitutional officer. His inherent duties, and the qualifications required for the office, are laid out in the Constitution. No law can modify those, and neither can an executive order. For the same reason, neither members of Congress nor federal judges must be approved for access to classified information when it's necessary for them to carry out their constitutional duties. Neither the President, nor members of Congress, nor federal judges can be required to keep and maintain a clearance to do their jobs. Even an act of Congress couldn't make the President have a clearance.
No, this is not what you are irresponsibly being led to believe, the source is one
ambiguous CBS article, which claims that Trump is "potentially" seeking clearance
for his children because he added them to the list for security checks..
Then, of course, Daily Beast couldn't wait to run with that.
The more likely truth is that they have to be cleared so they can move freely
in certain areas, I mean physically... not on an informational national security
level. So they have to go through background checks and be given certain clearances.
For example, they could accompany him into off-limit areas that require clearance,
such as the tunnels under the White House.. it's all rather complex, the Bush family
did the same thing. Technically, they are not "the first family" unless they are minors,
he's probably only seeking to elevate them to the same level Melania has.
Oh please. It's all over the place.
You don't have a clue about the guidelines and process of obtaining a TS clearance. Stop making stuff up.
Trump wants his 3 kids + son in law to have TOP SECRET access to information. They are not, as of now, government employees. They are supposed to be running the president elect's business!
You don't know that, you are uttering campaign battle chatter !!!!! that's all it amounts to. Geez!!!!!!!!!
No, we know for a fact that Hillary gave classified emails/information to her lawyers, IT staff, daughter, and Huma when they did not have clearance.
The things we DON'T know are the nonsense you posted in the OP about him doing it so they can make decisions about the business. We don't even know for sure that they are going to run the business yet. Technically it should be put in a blind trust, but that is literally impossible to do so there is going to need to be some sort of workaround.
Again, the President of the United States does not have a security clearance, or need one, and by law may not employ family members in the federal government.
This has nothing to do with the Hildebeast or her minions.
The President is a constitutional officer. His inherent duties, and the qualifications required for the office, are laid out in the Constitution. No law can modify those, and neither can an executive order. For the same reason, neither members of Congress nor federal judges must be approved for access to classified information when it's necessary for them to carry out their constitutional duties. Neither the President, nor members of Congress, nor federal judges can be required to keep and maintain a clearance to do their jobs. Even an act of Congress couldn't make the President have a clearance.
I don't know what you are yelling about. I never said Trump had to have a security clearance. What I'm saying is there is a beyond ridiculous double standard here that the Hillary supporters are becoming unhinged because Trump is asking for clearance for people before sharing information with them, unlike Hillary who just assumed that the rules don't apply to her.
You don't have a clue about the guidelines and process of obtaining a TS clearance. Stop making stuff up.
Trump wants his 3 kids + son in law to have TOP SECRET access to information. They are not, as of now, government employees. They are supposed to be running the president elect's business!
We still don't know this for sure, why are you assuming it is a fact?
The common thought process says it needs to be put in a blind trust, but since that is technically impossible, there is going to need to be some sort of workaround developed. Assuming otherwise as fact is just dishonest at this point.
No, we know for a fact that Hillary gave classified emails/information to her lawyers, IT staff, daughter, and Huma when they did not have clearance.
The things we DON'T know are the nonsense you posted in the OP about him doing it so they can make decisions about the business. We don't even know for sure that they are going to run the business yet. Technically it should be put in a blind trust, but that is literally impossible to do so there is going to need to be some sort of workaround.
You might want to support creating a dictator with a Family Monarachy, but I am not. (be careful, you are going to demonstrate how Hitler was able to dupe so many die hard followers)
You don't pay attention, the kids said it themselves on 60 minutes, that they will be running the business.
Therefore, I repeat: You don't know that !!!!!!!!!!! you are uttering campaign battle chatter !!!!! that's all it amounts to. Geez!!!!!!!!!
You might want to support creating a dictator with a Family Monarachy, but I am not.
You don't pay attention, the kids said it themselves on 60 minutes, that they will be running the business.
Therefore, I repeat: You don't know that you are uttering campaign battle chatter !!!!! that's all it amounts to. Geez!!!!!!!!!
100% wrong. The biggest reason I didn't support Hillary or Bush were because of the monarchy issues.
I really don't care what the kids said, or what he said on 60 minutes. He has lied and been wrong about dozens of things so far, I'm sure this will just add to the list. Nobody knows who is going to be running the businesses yet.
On top of that, it changes nothing about the fact that he is at least taking the correct steps to try and get clearance for those who he would like to discuss things with, who he considers advisors. Again, unlike Hillary who just assumed rules didn't apply to her and she passed the information around like Halloween candy.
Only people who perform work of a sensitive nature are granted security clearances. Family members may be investigated (depending on the level of clearance), but the family member is not assigned a clearance unless they also have a job that requires a clearance.
If both family members perform work that requires access to information deemed sensitive, they must be sponsored by the agency they work for and pass the background check(s).
You don't get a clearance by being married to somebody with one. You can, however lose a clearance by being married to someone who poses a security risk.
Did you miss the sentence "but the family member won't be granted a clearance unless they also have a position requiring clearance?"
The laws prohibit nepotism, but the children could certainly be put in unpaid positions requiring clearances. What do you think they do with interns? In fact accepting unpaid internships in exchange for clearances is becoming more and more popular. The kids can take any of the 4000 jobs opening up, they just can't get paid for it.
You can go to federal soup dot com and click on security to get the full details.
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