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Old 11-15-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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A new effort has begun to ask Obama to pardon 750,000 illegals before Trump takes office.

Illegals demand Obama issue mass pardons, last-ditch effort to stop Trump deportations - Washington Times
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Old 11-15-2016, 01:06 PM
 
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He can't pardon non-citizens. He has no jurisdiction over them.
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Old 11-15-2016, 01:09 PM
 
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He can't pardon non-citizens. He has no jurisdiction over them.
Maybe the ones asking for the pardon never thought of that.
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Old 11-15-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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A new effort has begun to ask Obama to pardon 750,000 illegals before Trump takes office.

Illegals demand Obama issue mass pardons, last-ditch effort to stop Trump deportations - Washington Times
The Dreamers are "Dreaming" . Obama's efforts were struck down in the supreme court. Its over. The dreamers will have to keep dreaming....
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Old 11-15-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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Maybe the ones asking for the pardon never thought of that.
People illegally here have no status.
I do think if their families can make 125% over the poverty line they could get a shot to legally stay here.

But if they are collecting checks on 3rd of the month, free medical and EBT then they could be out fast. I feel compassion for people trying to do better for their families, but we can't pay for the worlds poor if they break in.
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Old 11-15-2016, 01:13 PM
 
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Obama is now the lamest of the lame duck presidents. He can't even get the senate to consider his Scotus pick.

All he has now is the pardon. It remains to be seen how many criminals, drug dealers and the lowest of the low, that he decides to set free.
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Old 11-15-2016, 01:13 PM
 
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Immigration was a huge election issue. The mid terms have a ton of (D)'s up for election. Doing this would give the (R)'s a huge advantage if it even can be done.
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Old 11-15-2016, 01:20 PM
 
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Even as an Obama supporter, I would question his sanity if he did such a crazy thing.


I am unclear whether Mr. Obama could, legally, do such a thing for non-citizens. At first, I thought that such pardons must also be 'name specific', and not just a 'group', but then I recalled Jimmy Carter. Looking it up to refresh my memory, he did pardon a bunch of draft dodgers on the first day of his presidency in 1977 (but not deserters).


Jan. 21, 1977: Carter pardons Vietnam-era draft dodgers


So, apparently an identifiable group can be done. However, that leaves the question, can a pardon be granted to non-citizens?


This is a good article from August 2014. Please read silently while I read aloud, and we can discuss:




Could Obama Amnesty Illegal Aliens via the Pardon Power? | Center for Immigration Studies


Reading the article, it would be a very difficult thing to do, even if the President were so inclined.
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Old 11-15-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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So Obama had 20 Iraqi Christians who illegally entered from Mexico deported but then turns around and gives amnesty to 750k illegal Mexicans... that's why I didn't vote Democrat this year. Deliberately altering demographics for political gain is what communist China has done in Tibet and Xinjiang or what the USSR did in Siberia. The Iraqi Christian had a 50/50 chance of voting GOP so they had to go.
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Old 11-15-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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Obama is now the lamest of the lame duck presidents. He can't even get the senate to consider his Scotus pick.

All he has now is the pardon. It remains to be seen how many criminals, drug dealers and the lowest of the low, that he decides to set free.

He is going to start his own army. You know, the one he talked about that was as well funded as the US military.
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