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Old 03-19-2018, 11:15 AM
 
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POTUS spreading no collusion lies while missing the fact that obstruction of justice an even bigger problem.

All his tweets for last couple of days are about his business. The potential reason that obstruction of justice will lead down the road to reasons why collusion occurred are very real.
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Obstruction of justice can be hard to prove, but Trump is helping out best he can.

 
Old 03-19-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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You guys are not going to believe this.

Nutty Don has managed to hire himself another attorney: Joe DiGenova.

Yep. that Joe DiGenova, the deep state conspiracy nut case.

I'm not kidding.

TFF
 
Old 03-19-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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It's too bad this will never end up in a court room

On one side would Mueller, Comey, and sixteen or so of the best prosecuting attorneys in the nation. Lawyers who have brought down Enron executives, mafia dons, and so forth.

On the other side we have a collection of attorneys who argue with themselves, misspell president, and talk legal strategy in restaurants where they are overheard by budding reporters.
 
Old 03-19-2018, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Well the lies from POTUS are now really big. The help he received from the Mercers and their Cambridge Analytica has a election value of $100 million.

So he did not have help running, he used his own money, and he never reported any of it. Add election fraud to his problems. I wonder how deep this will go with the collusion issue and how much was passed on to the Russians.

POTUS is dirty and needs to resign.
 
Old 03-19-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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Rachel Maddow is hitting this pretty hard
Trump came out this past weekend and trashed the NYTimes for saying he was hiring another attorney for his Mueller defense team--denying he was doing that--and of course who is the new face at the defense table???

Now it seems that Cambridge Analytica got this Facebook info via a Cambridge professor who also was teaching for a St. Petersburg university---yes, the one in Russia--
Video showing him teaching in Russian a class designed to use personal data for political means

And news clip from the former CEO of Cambridge Analytica talking about designing political propaganda that doesn't look like propaganda...

The fact that Facebook stock was clobbered showed what might be a knee jerk reaction but also could be that the people who know tech know FB has played fast and loose and stands to be called to account in Europe at least which has much more stringent personal info standards which obviously have been ignored by many players in the game...

And the type of proceedure that Trump's defense attorneys think Mueller will agree to---
Like Trump signing a statement that he has committed no collusion or impropriety vs being interviewed by Comey under oath...
I just can't believe Ty Cobb who supposedly is a rational, quality attorney is able to even sit in the same room with someone like Dowd or Sekolow....and not you have a deep-state conspiracy supporter added to the mix...
How low can Cobb continue with the 3 stooges before driving into a wall or claiming bad health and leaving....guess it depends on how much he is paid maybe...
 
Old 03-19-2018, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Rachel Maddow is hitting this pretty hard
Trump came out this past weekend and trashed the NYTimes for saying he was hiring another attorney for his Mueller defense team--denying he was doing that--and of course who is the new face at the defense table???

Now it seems that Cambridge Analytica got this Facebook info via a Cambridge professor who also was teaching for a St. Petersburg university---yes, the one in Russia--
Video showing him teaching in Russian a class designed to use personal data for political means

And news clip from the former CEO of Cambridge Analytica talking about designing political propaganda that doesn't look like propaganda...

The fact that Facebook stock was clobbered showed what might be a knee jerk reaction but also could be that the people who know tech know FB has played fast and loose and stands to be called to account in Europe at least which has much more stringent personal info standards which obviously have been ignored by many players in the game...

And the type of proceedure that Trump's defense attorneys think Mueller will agree to---
Like Trump signing a statement that he has committed no collusion or impropriety vs being interviewed by Comey under oath...
I just can't believe Ty Cobb who supposedly is a rational, quality attorney is able to even sit in the same room with someone like Dowd or Sekolow....and not you have a deep-state conspiracy supporter added to the mix...
How low can Cobb continue with the 3 stooges before driving into a wall or claiming bad health and leaving....guess it depends on how much he is paid maybe...
That is if POTUS pays him
 
Old 03-19-2018, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Looks like POTUS new lawyer is attacking a witness Nader. POTUS acting more and more guilty everyday.
 
Old 03-19-2018, 10:50 PM
 
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Rachel Maddow had background info on that topic as well
Nadar apparently has personal history of being prosecuted for being a pedophile, has served time in European prison for sex offenses with young boys, and was actually tried for importing pornography by the same attorney Trump just hired---the deep state conspiracy guy

Watch Maddow's show from Monday night---
She says this is part of deliberate "OJ/Johnny Cochrane" type of defense where you attack the credibility of the witnesses
And that is what Trump is doing by engineering the firing of McCabe and other tactics like starting to go after Mueller now that he has subpoenaed evidence on Trump's business dealings and other campaign info
 
Old 03-19-2018, 10:51 PM
 
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That is if POTUS pays him
There are stories that his legal team is being paid by money from his 2020 election campaign
I don't know who signs their checks--maybe he is giving them a condo at Trump Tower...
 
Old 03-20-2018, 12:08 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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The loss of power and control over others is devastating to a megalomaniac narcissist.

When things start to spin out of control and narcissists feel threatened and backed into a corner, they lash out to punish the world for treating them so unfairly, they lash out at their perceived enemies, often even attacking their own family members.

Narcissists work to exact vengeance against those they believe harm them by exposing or weakening their position.

Division and chaos, plus carrying on about their own accomplishments, either real or imagined, is a given. But these generally intensify when they feel threatened. As do fantasies of revenge and violence.

We may well be watching one of the great narcissistic implosions in our times.
Yep. He causes everything himself, then attacks others reacting to his behavior or when is threatened by a stronger force. I've said, it appears this situation was intended for him to be exposed for all he is.

The big, tough bully...
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