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Old 04-07-2017, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Pixley
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Originally Posted by dechatelet View Post
Trump didn't criticize Obama for not going after Assad.

He criticized Obama for drawing a "red line" and then doing nothing when Assad violated that red line.

That showed weakness and made other countries think that they could get away with anything.

Trump has made it clear that he isn't into drawing red lines. He is simply going to act when he thinks it is appropriate. And he is going to do it without warning.

That's the way it should be.
No, that is not correct. He did not want to get involved in Syria at all.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
We should stay the hell out of Syria, the "rebels" are just as bad as the current regime. WHAT WILL WE GET FOR OUR LIVES AND $ BILLIONS?ZERO
8:33 PM - 15 Jun 2013
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Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Remember, all these ‘freedom fighters’ in Syria want to fly planes into our buildings.
2:57 PM - 28 Aug 2013
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Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Let the Arab League take care of Syria. Why are these rich Arab countries not paying us for the tremendous cost of such an attack?
8:25 AM - 29 Aug 2013
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Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict? Obama needs Congressional approval.
2:14 PM - 29 Aug 2013
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Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
AGAIN, TO OUR VERY FOOLISH LEADER, DO NOT ATTACK SYRIA - IF YOU DO MANY VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN & FROM THAT FIGHT THE U.S. GETS NOTHING!
9:20 AM - 5 Sep 2013
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:04 AM
 
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No, that is not correct. He did not want to get involved in Syria at all.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
We should stay the hell out of Syria, the "rebels" are just as bad as the current regime. WHAT WILL WE GET FOR OUR LIVES AND $ BILLIONS?ZERO
8:33 PM - 15 Jun 2013
5,950 5,950 Retweets 7,146 7,146 likes

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Remember, all these ‘freedom fighters’ in Syria want to fly planes into our buildings.
2:57 PM - 28 Aug 2013
1,208 1,208 Retweets 1,002 1,002 likes

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Let the Arab League take care of Syria. Why are these rich Arab countries not paying us for the tremendous cost of such an attack?
8:25 AM - 29 Aug 2013
471 471 Retweets 279 279 likes

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict? Obama needs Congressional approval.
2:14 PM - 29 Aug 2013
22,681 22,681 Retweets 13,328 13,328 likes

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
AGAIN, TO OUR VERY FOOLISH LEADER, DO NOT ATTACK SYRIA - IF YOU DO MANY VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN & FROM THAT FIGHT THE U.S. GETS NOTHING!
9:20 AM - 5 Sep 2013
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Using a WMD against innocent children CHANGES the game. We said the same thing about Germany during WW2. What did it take for the United States to get involved???
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Pixley
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Using a WMD against innocent children CHANGES the game. We said the same thing about Germany during WW2. What did it take for the United States to get involved???
Syria did the same thing in 2013. Congress wanted Obama to get Congressional approval then and Trump tweeted what he tweeted. So now it's different how?
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:17 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Redd Jedd View Post
No, that is not correct. He did not want to get involved in Syria at all.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
We should stay the hell out of Syria, the "rebels" are just as bad as the current regime. WHAT WILL WE GET FOR OUR LIVES AND $ BILLIONS?ZERO
8:33 PM - 15 Jun 2013
5,950 5,950 Retweets 7,146 7,146 likes

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Remember, all these ‘freedom fighters’ in Syria want to fly planes into our buildings.
2:57 PM - 28 Aug 2013
1,208 1,208 Retweets 1,002 1,002 likes

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Let the Arab League take care of Syria. Why are these rich Arab countries not paying us for the tremendous cost of such an attack?
8:25 AM - 29 Aug 2013
471 471 Retweets 279 279 likes

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict? Obama needs Congressional approval.
2:14 PM - 29 Aug 2013
22,681 22,681 Retweets 13,328 13,328 likes

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
AGAIN, TO OUR VERY FOOLISH LEADER, DO NOT ATTACK SYRIA - IF YOU DO MANY VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN & FROM THAT FIGHT THE U.S. GETS NOTHING!
9:20 AM - 5 Sep 2013
56,978 56,978 Retweets 39,299 39,299 likes
Trump's specific attack on Obama at yesterday's news conference with the king of Jordan was that Obama had drawn a red line and then not enforced it.

Obama's failure to enforce his own red line made America look weak and caused other countries to walk all over us.

This is a point Trump not only made at the news conference, but over and over again during his campaign.

It is one thing not to get in involved in Syria.

It's quite another to make threats and then not carry through on them.

You can trot out a million Trump tweets if you want -- you are still wrong.
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:20 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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In a statement condemning Tuesday’s chemical attack in Syria, President Trump faulted the administration of former President Barack Obama for not intervening more aggressively in that country’s civil war — contradicting his own, earlier advice.
“Today’s chemical attack in Syria against innocent people, including women and children, is reprehensible and cannot be ignored by the civilized world,” Mr. Trump said in the statement released by the White House. “These heinous actions by the Bashar al-Assad regime are a consequence of the past administration’s weakness and irresolution.”[MOD Cut/copyright]
Fact Check: Trump, Faulting Obama on Syria, Contradicts Himself


He is the biggest POS-HYPOCRITE in history! I am no fan of Obama or Clinton, but man I hope his plane crashes on his next trip!


Why do you think Bannon has been mad as hell and all but quit.
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:23 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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62% of Trump supporters and voted for him. Think we should have done nothing and stayed out.

What should Trump do in Syria in response to alleged chemical weapons use?
  • Nothing; stay out. (62%, 2,050 Votes)
  • Take ISIS out first, worry about Assad second (23%, 756 Votes)
  • Investigate & attack immediately (8%, 272 Votes)
  • Get congressional approval for military intervention (7%, 241 Votes)
Total Voters: 3,319
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:29 AM
 
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A leader leads.

That's Trump.

His supporters -- while they have doubts now -- will see that he did the right thing.

He showed that America doesn't let tin pot Third World dictators get away with using WMDs.

He showed that he is no puppet of Vladimir Putin.

And nothing he has done indicates that he wants to get involved in nation building in the Middle East.

Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, etc., are on notice that Obama the weakling is gone, and America is going to defend its interests and its allies.

America's interests do not include allowing Iran to get nuclear weapons, allowing North Korea to threaten America with nuclear weapons, and allowing Assad to use chemical weapons -- weapons that could be used on U.S. troops.

America's interests also do not include allowing terrorist groups from ISIS to Hezbollah to gain power and wreak havoc.

Those are the standards, and they are more than reasonable.
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:44 AM
 
Location: NC
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What idiocy... is your memory so short that you've already forgotten which party was in the WH the past 8 years! FYI ,I would have loved to have seen Bernie Sanders win, and I still hope to one day see America become a Social Democracy like Denmark!


The two-party system is too full of FANATICS and criminals!
How are you feeling about your OP? :spin spin spin:
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Old 04-07-2017, 09:26 AM
 
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Here is what to expect if you still listen:
More imaginary news, spins, weird comments, inappropriate appointments, baseless accusations, targeting individuals (considered personal enemies) from journalists (sleepy eyes) to Rosie O'Donnell (aka miss piggy).
Democrats on the other hand deal with it in very odd ways:
Every day someone else in Trump's team met with Russians, every day new "alleged" revelations marked by "could have been", "it is possible", "may have colluded with"...
So far no democrat came forward to directly accuse Trump with breaking the law. Some say "can be considered treason". If so, where is the evidence?
The Russians "hacked the elections". What does it actually mean? What did they do? No answer.
Democrats are engaged in a harassment campaign. Nothing more.
As independent, I feel both sides are hurting America for narrow partisan reasons.
A cop out if you ask me...

Your prior comment was about why anyone is still listening to Trump. I explained why I do. Now all this a bit more/much as if there is no sifting through the BS until we do move forward (or backward) as a country one way or another.

Needless to say, I too get frustrated about all the nonsense coming from all directions. Get in line, but this doesn't mean we should focus only on the nonsense and not pay attention to what actually transpires when the nonsense evolves to actions of consequence.

I am not an Independent for a variety of reasons, and although there are those who argue their position "for narrow partisan reasons," we also must all recognize that sometimes that partisanship is the necessary pressure to keep the other side "honest." Much like a court of law needs both a strong prosecution as well as defense. Both sides competing with all they have to argue their case, win their argument. Same in politics, or we risk an imbalance toward one side over the other.

To sit in the middle of the cross-fire and point fingers in every direction with this argument that "both sides are hurting America" doesn't change the arguments from either side, doesn't do anything really but sideline yourself, but no doubt if you are asked a specific question about a political issue, you will ultimately land on one side or the other, just like everyone else when all is said and done...
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