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Old 11-18-2016, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Bottom line - I don't care if Trump had anything to do with it. Ford is not going to Mexico and that's a GOOD thing.
Really?

Ford has been in Mexico since 1964.

Substantial production was moved during the 80's.

 
Old 11-18-2016, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Really?

Ford has been in Mexico since 1964.

Substantial production was moved during the 80's.
yes, but there is a plant in Kentucky and to take that away also, would hinder a whole lot of people in that area of Kentucky
 
Old 11-18-2016, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Not Michigan, but Kentucky.

And not "car manufacturing" in general, but the Lincoln MKC in particular.

Still a yuuuge indicator of things to come.
Never underestimate the power of misinformation on social media.

The Ky plant was NEVER at risk for closing. Trump did not save anything. Ford had previously intended to move production og 1 vehicle, the Lincoln MKC. The Union made clear that this was not going to cause the loss of a single job.

The US consumer has a preference for pick- up trucks, SUVs and crossovers. Ford continues to intend to move production of the Ford Focus to Mexico to better compete on price point with Honda and Toyota in both the US and off shore markets.

Ford has had offshore plants going back to the 20's. Ford has had operations in Mexico since the mid 60's and substantially expanded operations in the 80's.

Industrial robotics has and will continue to pose a far greater risk to US manufacturing jobs than offshoring.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 07:04 AM
 
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I'm a Trump supporter, but this move by Ford had nothing to do with him. I believe he will do good things for this country, but let's not give him credit for things that he had no part in.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 07:06 AM
 
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Does it really not bother people that Trump is taking credit for something he had absolutely nothing to do with? I keep hearing the Dems called sheeple on this board but a lot of people seem happy to believe whatever Donny tweets out. Not sure how that works when he tweets contradictory things, but...
Bloomberg is now presenting this.

Trump Says Ford Called to Say It's Keeping SUV Plant in Kentucky - Bloomberg

The story is a jumbled mess but it no longer matters. This is going to be the headlines "Trump saves jobs".

It's actually not a great story right now. The original move by Ford was to move small car production to Mexico. They do not build small cars at this plant. It's a Lincoln plant. They build SUV's here. That isn't what was going to move to start with.

The entire thing is a huge bait and switch. Ford will get credit for not moving production they never claimed they were going to move in the first place perhaps giving them cover for moving jobs they originally planned on moving and Trump will get credit.

Brilliant if they can pull it off and they probably will.

edit: I see where mom covered this also.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 07:07 AM
 
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Of course Trump's detractors will say that Trump had nothing to do with it.

But then again, they have been 100% wrong about Trump since July 2015 starting with "he isn't a real candidate".

This is more of the same.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Bloomberg is now presenting this.

Trump Says Ford Called to Say It's Keeping SUV Plant in Kentucky - Bloomberg

The story is a jumbled mess but it no longer matters. This is going to be the headlines "Trump saves jobs".

It's actually not a great story right now. The original move by Ford was to move small car production to Mexico. They do not build small cars at this plant. It's a Lincoln plant. They build SUV's here. That isn't what was going to move to start with.

The entire thing is a huge bait and switch. Ford will get credit for not moving production they never claimed they were going to move in the first place perhaps giving them cover for moving jobs they originally planned on moving and Trump will get credit.

Brilliant if they can pull it off and they probably will.

edit: I see where mom covered this also.
I owned a ford, and my trans came from Mexico....

and yes, they did claim they were moving, the CEO reported this morning that they were thinking about it.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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yes, but there is a plant in Kentucky and to take that away also, would hinder a whole lot of people in that area of Kentucky
There was NEVER an intent to close the Ky plant.

NEVER underestimate the power of social media to misinform.

When Ford first announced it would move production of one Lincoln model somewhere, the union made clear it would not cause the loss of a single job and Ford confirmed it.

People tend to believe anything when it seems to validate their perceptions.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
There was NEVER an intent to close the Ky plant.

NEVER underestimate the power of social media to misinform.

When Ford first announced it would move production of one Lincoln model somewhere, the union made clear it would not cause the loss of a single job and Ford confirmed it.

People tend to believe anything when it seems to validate their perceptions.
Actually I heard it on the radio this morning, about the CEO, stating that they were thinking about it.

so whose source is correct, yours or mine? Depending on what political affiliation we are? LOL
 
Old 11-18-2016, 07:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
Never underestimate the power of misinformation on social media.

The Ky plant was NEVER at risk for closing. Trump did not save anything. Ford had previously intended to move production og 1 vehicle, the Lincoln MKC. The Union made clear that this was not going to cause the loss of a single job.

The US consumer has a preference for pick- up trucks, SUVs and crossovers. Ford continues to intend to move production of the Ford Focus to Mexico to better compete on price point with Honda and Toyota in both the US and off shore markets.

Ford has had offshore plants going back to the 20's. Ford has had operations in Mexico since the mid 60's and substantially expanded operations in the 80's.

Industrial robotics has and will continue to pose a far greater risk to US manufacturing jobs than offshoring.
And how do you know all this? Bottom line, Ford is not moving this plant to Mexico. Trump had some influence whether you'll admit it or not. He use Ford moving Plants to Mexico time and again in his speeches about what was going wrong with America. Congrats to the good people of Kentucky!
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