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Old 01-09-2017, 06:47 PM
 
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Newsflash---it is not as simple as that. Federal law and public perception will wreck this guy. If it doesn't fall under the nepotism law, it is by the tiniest technicality--the word 'agency', but don't think that means it will not be questioned. Every move Trump makes will be questioned and challenged by those who have the courage to overcome the bullyboy's threats.

And, btw, perhaps you have forgotten, but when the inexperienced Kushner ran the campaign (in the beginning) things went off the rails for Trump, which is why Manafort was hired.

Trump is going to push the envelope and skirt the law too far. He will be challenged sooner or later as he keeps thumbing his nose at federal law and as he gives an inexperienced kid a powerful position simply because he is a relative. I'm fairly certain this is how Saddam Hussein's sons became so powerful (explain the difference if you disagree). Christie was dumped because of this kid who did not earn his position and that's the same kind of power a dictator's son has.

"A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official."

"Public official" is defined in the law to include the president, and the statutory definition for "relative" includes son-in-law. Based on that alone, you might think it's a slam-dunk case to bar Kushner from working for his father-in-law at the White House..."

"Nepotism practices undermine the credibility of public officials, public confidence in government," "It can undermine morale of public employees. I just don't see any justification for carving out an exception to the White House."

"...But even if the Trump White House could find a way to circumvent the law, there's a perception cost. "I think the American public just feels there's something wrong about setting up a dynasty around you, having your family around you officially advising you,"


Anti-Nepotism Laws Might Prevent Donald Trump's Son-In-Law From Serving In The White House : NPR
Newsflash . It is as simple as that . Advisor isn't a Cabinet level position. Who is going to declare him ineligible ? The media? The Democrats? Does Trump appear to give a crap about the opinions of either ? Want to lay bets on whether Kushner is the advisor ? Is some Democrat going to be positioned in the WH to keep Kushner and Trump from talking ? Get real.

 
Old 01-09-2017, 06:51 PM
 
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Trump will try to get away with it. He has no ethics or morals.
 
Old 01-09-2017, 06:53 PM
 
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There is something unethical about having a trusted family member as one of your advisors? Why?
 
Old 01-09-2017, 06:59 PM
 
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Who is going to declare him ineligible ? The media? The Democrats?
At some point in the near future, Trump will be in a major uproar against the GOP Congress because Trump didn't get his way.

He'll be tweeting insults against them and will threaten action/inaction on various things. It could get very bad. They might use a threat, behind the scenes, of investigating the nepotism issue as well as the business dealings. It could get very very ugly.

They might decide that Trump's so bad that they allow him to hang himself so they can replace him with Pence. Even if they choose not to do this, they have the option at any time and they can use it to their advantage with negotiating with Trump.
 
Old 01-09-2017, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Let me get this straight; you and others are pinning a solution to a problem that has vexed the world, and been worked upon by some of the best and brightest minds from various nations on some naïf that no one even heard about until several months ago?
You never heard of Jared Kushner before Trump got elected?

He's been a known quantity in the NY/NJ area for some time. There's that nasty business with our governor prosecuting Jared's jailbird daddy, for one thing.

As a matter of fact, Kushner is supposed to be redeveloping the dying mall ten minutes from my house, but I guess that's a bust now.

I agree that he isn't gonna solve Israel, lol.
 
Old 01-09-2017, 07:29 PM
 
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At some point in the near future, Trump will be in a major uproar against the GOP Congress because Trump didn't get his way.

He'll be tweeting insults against them and will threaten action/inaction on various things. It could get very bad. They might use a threat, behind the scenes, of investigating the nepotism issue as well as the business dealings. It could get very very ugly.

They might decide that Trump's so bad that they allow him to hang himself so they can replace him with Pence. Even if they choose not to do this, they have the option at any time and they can use it to their advantage with negotiating with Trump.


Once Kushner takes over the job it's done for . No one is going to start looking into nepotism a year or two after he has been on the job. That would be idiotic . If you think there is a nepotism problem , you deal with it at the time of the appointment . But you can't ignore it for a while and then decide to use it at some future point . Sorry, doesn't work that way . Once he takes office and begins to serve it's a done deal , excepting any immediate challenges by the Dems .
 
Old 01-09-2017, 07:39 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Trump is turning into exactly the kind of president Berlusconi and Mussolini would approve of. Trump clearly seems to believe he can pull off some type of "Trumpolini" stunt in America like those guys did in Italy. I believe the American people will see right through this with time and he's underestimating the American people's belief in playing by the rules.
America saw through the subversives on the Left, and voted accordingly.
That's why you are on the sidelines pretending to be relevant.
You'll enjoy what lies ahead!
 
Old 01-09-2017, 07:43 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Originally Posted by sware2cod View Post
At some point in the near future, Trump will be in a major uproar against the GOP Congress because Trump didn't get his way.

He'll be tweeting insults against them and will threaten action/inaction on various things. It could get very bad. They might use a threat, behind the scenes, of investigating the nepotism issue as well as the business dealings. It could get very very ugly.

They might decide that Trump's so bad that they allow him to hang himself so they can replace him with Pence. Even if they choose not to do this, they have the option at any time and they can use it to their advantage with negotiating with Trump.
We all get a kick out of reading predictions from the same clowns that though for sure that Clinton would win. LOL!
 
Old 01-09-2017, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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He will not be taking a salary and therefore sidesteps the nepotism thing.
Maybe. Since Ivanka is involved in all of this, and has her own biz empire, I wouldn't be quick to discount any nepotism charges just yet. The Trumps are as tightly knit together as the Gordeon Knot, and their finances are just as complicated.

I agree with the poster who mentioned it's inevitable that Trump will start a war with the Congressional GOP at some point. When it happens, there will be someone who gets stung bad enough to strike back at Trump, and nepotism has no expiration date. Most of the Administration advisors of the past who left due to nepotism, and there have been quite a few, were finally booted out after quite some time serving in the White House.

Nepotism in both political parties is ancient. Packing their advisory staff with old friends from back in the day is something a lot of past Presidents have done, and there's often one skunk in the woodpile who gets found out when it happens.

Both Nixon and Carter did it in numbers, and nepotism seriously damaged both. Nixon was forced to resign in part because of his closest advisors Haldeman and Erlichmann, and Carter had to fire 2 of his closest buddies to hang on to his Presidency. In the end, they damaged his re-election primaries because they were fodder for a challenge from Ted Kennedy. Carter limped into the convention afterwards, and was never able to shake off the damage.

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Old 01-09-2017, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Left coast
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son-in-law Jared Kushner ?...

Finally someone who isn't a right wing, white supremacist (well Im assuming since he is Jewish) and married to a strong intelligent female figure (thank goodness).


I will take it.
Best of the Lot as far as Im concerned. The Fact he has Chinese business ties--- GREAT maybe we won't go to war with China.

Ok back to ignoring politics....
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