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Old 11-21-2016, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by whogo View Post
Maybe people are starting to really other peoples' marriages are none of their damn business.
This.

My personal opinion and feelings about gay marriage are irrelevant.

It should not be the government's job to regulate who can marry who.

If you quit giving government so much power, you wouldn't have to make such a fuss when it's used in ways you don't agree with.

 
Old 11-21-2016, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post
Absolutely.

The gays are mostly hypocrites. They demand to parade in the streets,
they have their non-profit charities which raise millions for gay causes,
they lobby for political efforts, like gay marriage, gay adoption and
normalization of perversion in sexual medias.
They are forcing our children to be brought up to approve of their lifestyles,
and bully them into not having an expressable opinion.

We have to fight against them with no quarter, quash them like we always
have, stuff them into a corner and give them no rights in the public square.


That is my never-changing conviction, I am 100% against homosexual "marriage",
always will be.. and I'm also against gay adoption, gays using surrogates
to make children, and against any protections for them based on sexual activities.
You realize you are talking about human beings, right?
 
Old 11-21-2016, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post
Absolutely.

The gays are mostly hypocrites. They demand to parade in the streets,
they have their non-profit charities which raise millions for gay causes,
they lobby for political efforts, like gay marriage, gay adoption and
normalization of perversion in sexual medias.
They are forcing our children to be brought up to approve of their lifestyles,
and bully them into not having an expressable opinion.

We have to fight against them with no quarter, quash them like we always
have, stuff them into a corner and give them no rights in the public square.

That is my never-changing conviction, I am 100% against homosexual "marriage",
always will be.. and I'm also against gay adoption, gays using surrogates
to make children, and against any protections for them based on sexual activities.


Now.....can you show me on this doll where the bad man touched you?

 
Old 11-21-2016, 05:31 AM
 
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Originally Posted by dog8food View Post
What do you feel when you read the thread title?

Just 20 years ago, I could make this statement and there would hardly be a cringe among a crowd.

Today, it is seen as taboo; as if a damning slander suddenly leaped out of the dark ages. Heck, someone might close this very thread.

Why is this? How is it that a societal opinion can change so quickly, and so fiercely?
I don't support it, but respect all people's right to work and not be harassed to.
 
Old 11-21-2016, 06:16 AM
 
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That's wrong. I personally know 2 people who were homosexual before converting to Christianity and then became hetero.
No. What they learned to do was suppress their natural inclinations. It's not that hard.

Just like any number of straight women who do pornography can convincingly pull off a lesbian scene for the delight of straight men.




I'd love to see these "gay to straight" converts in an all-same sex environment for a month with close contact and friendships with attractive same sex people. See what happens. If it's a FIGHT to "stay straight," then you're not actually straight. In fact, it'd make a great reality show, wouldn't it?
 
Old 11-21-2016, 06:20 AM
 
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Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
This.

My personal opinion and feelings about gay marriage are irrelevant.

It should not be the government's job to regulate who can marry who.

If you quit giving government so much power, you wouldn't have to make such a fuss when it's used in ways you don't agree with.

But, do you find any value in the legal construct of the marriage contract (which is a government framework)? It automatically provides the parties to same 1000 rights and responsibilities between them?



In this way it's like converting your business from a sole proprietorship to an LLC or Corp. Those business forms are created by the government, statutorily. There are at least some restrictions and regulations as to what can and cannot be registered as an LLC or Corp. And once you do, you automatically get a series of benefits, tax status, etc. that you didn't have before. So there's value in it.
 
Old 11-21-2016, 06:38 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post
The gays are mostly hypocrites. They demand to parade in the streets,
they have their non-profit charities which raise millions for gay causes,
they lobby for political efforts, like gay marriage, gay adoption and
normalization of perversion in sexual medias.
While I support gay rights, I too do not approve of such events. I know of no one who participates in such events. No one I know (gay or straight) goes to such events. We all make a choice not to attend. They are a fringe group and the parades are not common nor held in every corner of the US. Many of the gay people I know actually hate those parades because it imposes a stereotype that living as gay person is purely about sexuality rather than the freedom of choice. As a parent, I shield my children from such events; I will introduce them to topics about sexuality on my own accord.

On the other hand, I do realize that they have every right to parade and exercise their voice.... these parades are a form of protest. I've run into a few KKK parades in the south (one was annual near my college). I too do not support their cause and refuse to let my children see them. I do accept that they have a voice and a right to express it.

Do I believe that any predominantly white congregation of people are racists and KKK? Absolutely no... I realize they are too a fringe group and do not represent the sentiment of the wider white population. Neither does gay pride parade goers represent the sentiment of the wider gay population.

I would not support any legislature to suppress the rights of either group; no matter how strongly I feel against them.

It is American to support the rights afforded to all people and have the strength to set aside personal feelings regarding the message itself.



Also... I think this is important to point out.

You can ban SSM and they will still have every right to parade. They had these parades before and after the SSM ruling. So your argument for making SSM illegal has no foundation except to impose your personal views on the wider population.
 
Old 11-21-2016, 06:52 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Originally Posted by Hobo7396 View Post
However, it has been shown that most Americans do NOT support same sex marriage rights so the Supreme Court is actually ignoring the voice of the people and awarding that right to same gender couples in spite of public wishes.
When it comes to issues that the Supreme Court has deemed as Human/Civil Rights issues, their rulings are not based on the voice of the wider population. This is a normal function of the Supreme Court and considered a safety net from mob rule infringing on peoples' human/civil rights. Minority groups (by numbers and sentiment) are still privy to human/civil rights.

There is a reason why the case made it to the Supreme Court and not simply settled within the voting both.
 
Old 11-21-2016, 06:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by dog8food View Post
What do you feel when you read the thread title?

Just 20 years ago, I could make this statement and there would hardly be a cringe among a crowd.

Today, it is seen as taboo; as if a damning slander suddenly leaped out of the dark ages. Heck, someone might close this very thread.

Why is this? How is it that a societal opinion can change so quickly, and so fiercely?
Media and Politics

Gay marriage destroys the family unit, the primary institution to go for when you need help not the government. For those that don't have families, there are volunteer charities and church groups available to help.


So this issue is not merely social but economic ultimately.

People just can't see it because they are myopic and can't see past what's right in front of them.


In other words, they aren't critically thinking.

The more you are feeding from the Government's hand, the more power they have over you.
 
Old 11-21-2016, 08:00 AM
 
14,767 posts, read 17,111,231 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post
Absolutely.

The gays are mostly hypocrites. They demand to parade in the streets,
they have their non-profit charities which raise millions for gay causes,
they lobby for political efforts, like gay marriage, gay adoption and
normalization of perversion in sexual medias.
They are forcing our children to be brought up to approve of their lifestyles,
and bully them into not having an expressable opinion.

We have to fight against them with no quarter, quash them like we always
have, stuff them into a corner and give them no rights in the public square.

That is my never-changing conviction, I am 100% against homosexual "marriage",
always will be.. and I'm also against gay adoption, gays using surrogates
to make children, and against any protections for them based on sexual activities.
This:
Happens with, or without your approval




but congrats - you're the reason there were, are, and will be parades. 🌈🌈
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