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The interesting thing is how liberals argue by essentially throwing a mess of arguments up on the wall and seeing which one sticks. On the one hand, they say that everyone loves gay marriage and that anyone who doesn't is a dinosaur and these beliefs will die out with the old has-beens who hold them. On the other hand, they say that what is popular or in the majority is irrelevant and that the minority who support gay marriage are in the same situation as, for example, those who opposed slavery (an attempt at linking the two morally). Also interestingly, they don't mind if anyone notices their contradictory statements, as long as someone is persuaded by either one of them.
Nobody ever said that "everyone loves gay marriage". Except you.
It isn't linking the two things at all. It is saying that merely what is most popular is not what America is about.
First, rights are not determined by court decisions. If they were, then court decisions could remove rights. I presume you don't want that.
Secondly, I notice that nobody likes to cite the Supreme Court decision affirming slavery. If they're always right, then they're always right.
Thirdly, nothing that man has to invent, such as marriage, can be a right, by definition. It's a societal construct and therefore it is wholly under the control of society in any arbitrary way it wishes.
Nothing wrong if a person supports gay marriage. It's a problem if they create laws and push their agenda on others.
Nothing is wrong with it...until you get to reproduction.
But the argument is focused on consent isn't it? So whether they can reproduce is irrelavant to the topic. It doesn't have to be brother and sister at reproduction age. They could be in their 70s or it could be 21 year old grandson marrying 80 year old grandma/grandpa.
And as one of the commenters in the latter link stated homosexuals make up only 2% of the population.
You said: "Besides infidelity is at an all time high in the homosexual community."
I asked where you got that.
Neither of those sources says that infidelity is at an all time high in the homosexual community, although both sources indicate infidelity is important to a stable relationship (which most of us already knew).
But okay...are you saying that infidelity should be a reason not to allow gay marriage?
And if that is what you are saying, should we also not allow someone who has been unfaithful in one marriage not remarry?
But the argument is focused on consent isn't it? So whether they can reproduce is irrelavant to the topic. It doesn't have to be brother and sister at reproduction age. They could be in their 70s or it could be 21 year old grandson marrying 80 year old grandma/grandpa.
To you it's irrelevant. To me it is not.
However, if 2 people want to live in a sexless situation, who is stopping them?
And as one of the commenters in the latter link stated homosexuals make up only 2% of the population.
Any survey of the gay population does not measure those in the closet. The 2 percent figure comes from the CDC survey which was conducted through face to face interviews. Other surveys conducted over the phone which are more anonymous show closer to 4 percent. On the flip side those that are closeted are not going to be entering into a same sex marriage before coming out.
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It's not a slippery slope argument. Do you believe homosexuals should be able to marry because they consent to it?
In the case of homosexuals, yes I do. But now because I said that, you are now going to say... Why not your dad? Why not a goat? Why not your pet dog? That is why I say you and the other poster are using the slippery slope tactic, because anything other than heterosexual marriage is evil to you guys/girls
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