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Old 11-22-2016, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Originally Posted by roadrat View Post
Funny thing is when you look at a county election map you'll see that about half of California's counties voted for Trump, what happens when they decide not to leave the union? you gonna roll troops in and force them? What happens when the Feds decide to send in troops to protect them? You want to break away from the union, but how about if half your counties decide to break up the state? You OK with that?
You may need to rethink your grand plans.


bill
Sorry but I've already thought of that.

The state legislature can redraw county boundaries and so theoretically all of the sparcely populated red counties could be merged with heavily populated blue counties. The Bay Area( Pop 9 million) could be merged into a single county with Far NorCal( Pop 2 million)

Sacramento County could absorb all the Sierra counties.

Los Angeles could absorb Kern County.

Did I miss anywhere?

 
Old 11-22-2016, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Oh man, how i would love california and New York to NO LONGER be part of the unuted states
Yes, over 100 fortune 500 companies gone, $4 trillion in GDP gone, youre way better off with Mississippi and West Virginia.

lol
 
Old 11-22-2016, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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Oh man, how i would love california and New York to NO LONGER be part of the unuted states
I can agree with California.... but please keep NY. Too many of them already fled to Florida and ruined it, and like a plague of locusts are now coming back north in "half-back" mode.. They complain about everything and how they want it to be "like where we came from". Yuck....
 
Old 11-22-2016, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
Yes, over 100 fortune 500 companies gone, $4 trillion in GDP gone, youre way better off with Mississippi and West Virginia.

lol
And what type of trade deals are those "100 fortune 500 companies" going to get when they try to import their goods into the largest consumer market in the world (USA)? How many of them will actually stay in the country of California and not uproot to move to another nation?


How will California build, finance, supply, and arm a military?


It will NEVER happen!
 
Old 11-22-2016, 06:13 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Come back to me and say that after Trump's deportation police show up and start breaking down doors.


Ive never actually heard that saying.
You must be a criminal illegal alien as those are the only ones that are slated to see ICE come knocking under President Trump. Is that really such a problemo for you?
 
Old 11-22-2016, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Sorry but I've already thought of that.

The state legislature can redraw county boundaries and so theoretically all of the sparcely populated red counties could be merged with heavily populated blue counties. The Bay Area( Pop 9 million) could be merged into a single county with Far NorCal( Pop 2 million)

Sacramento County could absorb all the Sierra counties.

Los Angeles could absorb Kern County.

Did I miss anywhere?
Are you planning to do this gerrymandering before the vote? Because it won't pass state and maybe fed constitutional muster. Until you succeed your still bound by the fed and state constitutions.
Doing it after would be to late, the counties your planning to break up will have already asked for fed protection. Is the new country of Kalifornia going to fight the feds aka civil war part 2. I don't think that will turn out to well for you.
fact is you will never get the whole state to leave only the heavily liberal (welfare dependent) counties.
What does that do to your budget figures?

Oh and don't forget that cali isn't going anywhere without paying there portion of the national debt.

bill
 
Old 11-22-2016, 06:16 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Most Californians( myself included) want undocumented residents put on a path to legal status.

Go ahead and deport violent felons and drug dealers, gang members etc.

But the others, no.
<bold> Which is what he's repeatedly said if you'd bother to listen....

Last edited by jimj; 11-22-2016 at 06:39 AM..
 
Old 11-22-2016, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Richmond,VA
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And what type of trade deals are those "100 fortune 500 companies" going to get when they try to import their goods into the largest consumer market in the world (USA)? How many of them will actually stay in the country of California and not uproot to move to another nation?


How will California build, finance, supply, and arm a military?


It will NEVER happen!



Many of Cali's Fortune 500 companies will leave for the USA. As far as Cali's military, well they won't have one other than a small national guard. They will be protected by the USA for a multi-billion dollar "fee".
 
Old 11-22-2016, 06:20 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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But what if they don't?
Then the courts will knock it down just like they have with many other CA initiatives. That's the thing with CA, voters can pass anything but the courts? Well, that's a whole different story. Good luck getting past those judges...
 
Old 11-22-2016, 06:37 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Didn't everyone make fun of Texas for wanting the same thing?
Yep, and will wonders never cease, they're still part of the U.S.! Same thing with CA, Alt-Left/far left will moan and groan about their illegal brethren being forced to actually follow the laws of the U.S....

6 months to a year from now this conversation will have evaporated to be replaced with some other perceived slight causing a new temper tantrum and stomping of feet/teeth gnashing.
That's how it is with Kalifornia, some noisy petulant children always with something to cry and whine about as the other 3/4 or more of the state goes about their daily activities and working their arse off to feed their families all the while shaking their heads and rolling their eyes at those whiny babies and wondering when they'll either grow the hell up or move somewhere else taking their blood sucking leaders like Jerry Brown with them...
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