Shrinking Water Supply as Big Desert Cities Grow (California, Colorado, pay)
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Great idea! You know you should look at Japan and see what happened to their economy when their country stopped growing. Here's a hint, it took 30 years for them to even see modest growth in their GDP. A stagnant population is a stagnant economy.
I brought this up continuously in the spring/early summer. Desalination on the states dime w/o federal subsidies and assistance. The Israelis are the best in the world at it: hire them and power it with solar.
California imports 70% of its water from out of state and those areas where they import water from are starting to have their water run dry. For all of the talk about how big California's economy is, California has just the 17th biggest state economy per capita (Nebraska is 18th). Water will be come more expensive and California has a large debt as is.
Some people want to create a water pipeline from the Great Lakes to the southwest, but many in the Great Lakes area oppose it, due to the potential damage it may do to the Great Lakes simply so that people can choose to live in a desert and golf on green golf courses there.
What should be done about water and desert cities?
Pipe line the Missisippi at New Orleans to the west.
Last edited by Alonso_Castillo; 11-24-2016 at 03:30 PM..
Isn't it ironic that the same people who are hyperventilating about "climate change" are the ones who live in places in California which are completely dependent on artificially bypassing nature, thus causing damage to the ecosystems along the entire Colorado River, which they apparently don't mind? And then using said imported water and air-conditioning systems in order to create massive megacities which generate huge amounts of pollution while consuming gigantic quantities of fossil fuels which they rail against, often while they are stalled at a standstill on freeways?
Probably I should have used a different word besides "ironic."
Isn't it ironic that the same people who are hyperventilating about "climate change" are the ones who live in places in California which are completely dependent on artificially bypassing nature, thus causing damage to the ecosystems along the entire Colorado River, which they apparently don't mind? And then using said imported water and air-conditioning systems in order to create massive megacities which generate huge amounts of pollution while consuming gigantic quantities of fossil fuels which they rail against, often while they are stalled at a standstill on freeways?
Probably I should have used a different word besides "ironic."
Well look at it this way: if they hyperbuild desalinization fueled by solar then we can roll back the rising sea levels. On their dime, not federally funded. They can fill the dalton sea and lake mead back to previous levels while at it.
Pipe line the Missisippi at New Orleans to the west.
Firstly that's at sea level and secondly just for some perspective the underground aqueducts that feed NYC are about 20+ feet across, there is three of them. Two can meet the cities water demands and the third was started a long time ago as in many decades and expected to be completed soon. They are going to use it so they can perform maintenance on the others which are over 100 years old. I would suggest that trying to pipe water from the mouth of the Mississippi is just not going to work because of the energy costs to move all that water and the expensive long term costs.
If a project like this were to occur it would probably have to start at the Great Lakes, gravity is your friend. This would not be something you'd build to last 50 or 100 years but instead forever with minor maintenance. You would need to either go on level, under or around the land with a natural flow.
Firstly that's at sea level and secondly just for some perspective the underground aqueducts that feed NYC are about 20+ feet across, there is three of them. Two can meet the cities water demands and the third was started a long time ago as in many decades and expected to be completed soon. They are going to use it so they can perform maintenance on the others which are over 100 years old. I would suggest that trying to pipe water from the mouth of the Mississippi is just not going to work because of the energy costs to move all that water and the expensive long term costs.
If a project like this were to occur it would probably have to start at the Great Lakes, gravity is your friend. This would not be something you'd build to last 50 or 100 years but instead forever with minor maintenance. You would need to either go on level, under or around the land with a natural flow.
Nice to see some smart enough around here to grasp gravity and it's important role in moving water
The Great Lake states plus Ontario and Quebec will never approve a diversion to the west. The Great Lake states self regulate water distribution. It was a big issue for Waukesha to get water and it is 1.5 miles from the continental divide.
Some in the area believe if the west continue to have water problems, we might see water refugees. Also, most believe a water pipe from the Midwest to the southwest is not practical and feasible.
I believe Israel gets all of its water via desalination from the Mediterranean. It solved their water problems.
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