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What matters is not the popular vote, but who won the most states. Hell, the people of California do not represent more than half of America, but without the electoral college CA, NY, and a couple of other densely populated states would have determined the election. That means that a whole lot of people would not have been represented.
Get over it, dude. Your candidate lost BIG TIME. Deal with it and roll up your lip!
Trump won the popular vote in many more states than Hillary, who won only 18 states. We are 50 sovereign states. We do not vote as a nation in a block.
You're candidate lost. Get over it. You have no facts to support your claim that "over half the country" dislike Trump.
I disagree since the only way to accurately count is actual voters and Trump only won 46.6% of the vote with still more liberal votes to be counted. Bottom line, more people did not vote for Trump than did.
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy
What matters is not the popular vote, but who won the most states. Hell, the people of California do not represent more than half of America, but without the electoral college CA, NY, and a couple of other densely populated states would have determined the election. That means that a whole lot of people would not have been represented.
I think this will come to a head in the coming years. The electoral college overriding the popular vote is becoming more frequent and those huge metropolitan areas being controlled by small rural areas is going to be an ever more visible issue. While Republicans are thrilled that a small number of people can control a larger number of people, as those numbers continue to increase in coming elections, there will likely be a change at some point.
I didn't scream fraud at all. My point is, Trump supporters are thrilled now but they will grow weary when Trump inevitably is hammered by over half the country. He only won 46.6% of the vote and people are well aware going in that a larger portion (over 2 million and more votes to count) did not want him so it only exacerbates the issue.
Don't apply for a job as a political analyst. You aren't one.
Trump is going to prove to be a great president. The team he is putting together so far looks very competent. Very strong.
Two million votes and counting. They are still counting votes in liberal areas. And that does not include those that voted for Jill Stein, Gary Johnson and Evan McMullin. Far more are against Trump than are for him.
OK, suppose she eventually gets 4 million more votes than Trump. That's 1.2% of the population. Again, NOT "a large portion of the population" or a mandate. And - I'll repeat this until it sinks in - the United States is not a democracy. It's a republic. A savvy candidate runs their campaign in such a manner as to capitalize on the system in place. Trump simply ran a more effective campaign for the current system. Why is this so darn hard to understand?
As divided as this country is, that's highly unlikely. And as Trump's blending of his personal business affairs with government initiatives, the potential for trouble will increase. Trump supporters don't seem to see the potential risk here.
Blending of his personal business affairs with government initiatives? Where? Let's see your source. Evidence, not baseless conjecture.
It is painful to watch the president they love hated by the other half of the country. It is easier to attack than defend. When one is on the side that dislikes the man in office, they can just sit by and insult.
Trump supporters are rejoicing now but trust me, they will grow tired of how much the president they like is disliked by over half of the country. Over half. They will grow weary of defending him. And if he privatizes Medicare and Social Security, a lot of unpleasantness will likely follow; only time will tell. For those that think they will get rich with Social Security privatization and will then have no problem affording private insurance policies at 70, Enron employees thought they would be rich too.
The electoral college may elect the president, but it doesn't negate that a much larger portion of the country did not want Trump. They are reminded daily that a small number of rural voters had more power than entire metropolitan areas. Both areas may work and pay taxes but saying those large areas have less say is not going to wear well when Trump makes those inevitable mistakes.
Over half I notice you didn't say half of Americans.
So let's chuck the high drama. We had 8 years of your buddy, and survived; so will you.
You'll be hearing a lot of whining about unfairness from the Trumbonites. Safe-space industry if going to boom.
You've got that bass ackwards, that or operating under your own deep delusions. That whining, foot stomping and cries of "unfaiiiiirrrrrrr", as well as the cry for safe spaces is coming from the left.
And what in the world is a "Trumbonite"? Sounds like a new rare metal that's been discovered.
I was going to point this out, but wanted to finish reading the entire thread. I agree 100% with your response.
Sad and dangerous ignorance about the how and why our system of government was built the way it was. We were never intended to be a democracy. It is tyranny of many of the few.
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Only when you look at the popular vote, which is not a valid snapshot of the nation, since the Electoral College suppresses some of that vote. The EC works as it was designed to. You need to look at the reasons it was implemented, and learn how it still applies today as it did in post-colonial America.
People against the EC complain that they don't like that some states are determining who will be their president, because they are not aligned with them. Ultimately that is why the EC was put in the Constitution. Those other states don't want to be lorded over by the states you agree with.
What's hilarious about this thread is that the Democrats just learned a "hard truth" and now this OP thinks the Republicans are going to "learn a hard truth" over the next four years? LOL
Don't think so, pal. This election was an utter repudiation of Democrat policies (progressivism) that have been destroying America. Republicans are going to have no second thoughts. None.
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I notice you didn't say half of Americans.
