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Old 12-05-2016, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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No, Obama, you presided over a loss of manufacturing jobs, and failed to deliver on exports - Washington Times

Under Obama, the US has lost 303,000 manufacturing jobs. Still waiting on those shovel ready jobs as well.

Obviously, this has been a tough 8 years for people who like to work.

This is why you don't elect losers to do a grown up job. And to think, loser libs wanted Hillary to continue the slaughter! BOOOO!!!



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Old 12-05-2016, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I know outsourcing has been happening for 30 years. Most of the jobs were flat including mine just before Obama took office. what did not work with Obama, see the obstructionist congress.
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Old 12-05-2016, 05:06 PM
 
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This is a very elementary analysis. Most of the jobs that have been lost were either automated or outsourced, meaning that they were very low wage, entry level jobs. There's no point in spending tax dollars to salvage a $10/hr assembly line job that will inevitably be automated in an advanced economy. Empirically, the jobs lost by manufacturing have been replaced by higher paying jobs in business services, construction, heath services, ect.

The problem then becomes the governments ability to invest in capacity for improvements in education in a new economy. Sadly, conservatives would rather teach creationism than teach computer programming and climate science.

Trump supporters often wonder why rural areas are being left in the dust, it's because their elected conservative representatives have an ideological vendetta against education.
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Old 12-05-2016, 05:07 PM
 
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How many of those jobs were lost to automation? Technology has come a long way in just 8 short years.
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Old 12-05-2016, 05:12 PM
 
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How many of those jobs were lost to automation? Technology has come a long way in just 8 short years.
Not entirely, because Obama inherited an economy that was already hemorrhaging manufacturing jobs. That would be like if the economy went into recession now and we blamed Trump for the economic collapse. It's not that complicated, the recession started under the Bush presidency and that's the reason why so many were initially lost.
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Old 12-05-2016, 05:13 PM
 
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Do you want to live in a system where the government provides, or where individuals sink or swim on their own wits?

Since when is it the duty of the government to make sure all who want work can get a job? What happened to a free enterprise economy?
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Old 12-05-2016, 05:20 PM
 
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Not entirely, because Obama inherited an economy that was already hemorrhaging manufacturing jobs. That would be like if the economy went into recession now and we blamed Trump for the economic collapse. It's not that complicated, the recession started under the Bush presidency and that's the reason why so many were initially lost.
That is true, we were losing jobs like crazy when Obama took office, I know plenty of people that struggled during that time. I have heard manufacturing has actually been doing good in the US in recent years, but the problem is that it now takes one person for every five people it use to take thanks to automation.
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Old 12-05-2016, 05:22 PM
 
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No, Obama, you presided over a loss of manufacturing jobs, and failed to deliver on exports - Washington Times

Under Obama, the US has lost 303,000 manufacturing jobs. Still waiting on those shovel ready jobs as well.

Obviously, this has been a tough 8 years for people who like to work.

This is why you don't elect losers to do a grown up job. And to think, loser libs wanted Hillary to continue the slaughter! BOOOO!!!


That's aside from the solar panel money he flushed down the toilet, together with the jobs!
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Old 12-05-2016, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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I have heard manufacturing has actually been doing good in the US in recent years, but the problem is that it now takes one person for every five people it use to take thanks to automation.
That's not a problem. That's how you compete and provide widgets at a reasonable and fair price. Better to have highly productive jobs that can pay a decent wage than low value jobs that land workers on welfare. 1/3rd of US manufacturing workers are already being subsidized by the tax payers via welfare.
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Old 12-05-2016, 05:24 PM
 
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I know outsourcing has been happening for 30 years. Most of the jobs were flat including mine just before Obama took office. what did not work with Obama, see the obstructionist congress.
I like how every negative of Obama is met with "this has been going on for 30 years." So then Obama should have just been like every other President, LOL. And then "oh, yeah, I also blame Congress." But you just said it's been going on for 30 years. LMAO


It's like a liberal playbook. Those were the first two steps. Then it's like "if those fail, just call them racists."
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