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Old 11-26-2016, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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20 million people could lose their insurance. The uninsured often end up in emergency rooms, the most expensive option for receiving health care and one that taxes hospital budgets.

Local hospitals hold hikes to 4 percent and under, fear blow if Obamacare is scrapped | Local | lacrossetribune.com

 
Old 11-26-2016, 10:01 AM
 
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20 million people could lose their insurance. The uninsured often end up in emergency rooms, the most expensive option for receiving health care and one that taxes hospital budgets.

Local hospitals hold hikes to 4 percent and under, fear blow if Obamacare is scrapped | Local | lacrossetribune.com
ER overuse is actually worse under Obamacare. And fewer people can afford the Obamacare high deductibles.

Contrary to goals, ER visits rise under Obamacare
 
Old 11-26-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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20 million people could lose their insurance. The uninsured often end up in emergency rooms, the most expensive option for receiving health care and one that taxes hospital budgets.

Local hospitals hold hikes to 4 percent and under, fear blow if Obamacare is scrapped | Local | lacrossetribune.com
Fearmongering again !!! Boring !!!

Could isn't is !!!!

How often is often ?

Never ending mindless attacks from the butt hurt !!! Boring !!!
 
Old 11-26-2016, 10:25 AM
 
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Fearmongering again !!! Boring !!!

Could isn't is !!!!

How often is often ?

Never ending mindless attacks from the butt hurt !!! Boring !!!
This is coming from the hospitals who must maintain a budget. Believe it or not, apparently Obamacare was helping to control the hospital costs.

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But hospitals, especially those in rural areas, could be tremendously hard hit if the replacement rolls back the progress made under the ACA to insure patients and incentivize them to get care before their illnesses require emergency room visits or hospitalization.
http://www.modernhealthcare.com/arti...NEWS/161109911

http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/i..._benefits.html

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/1...amacare-Repeal

These are facts that instead of finding solutions for, you scream, "fearmongering!"
 
Old 11-26-2016, 10:27 AM
 
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ER's aren't being paid now. Those who go to ER's go in large part because they can't afford the deductibles and co-pays and a doctor will turn you away without them.
 
Old 11-26-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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ER overuse is actually worse under Obamacare. And fewer people can afford the Obamacare high deductibles.

Contrary to goals, ER visits rise under Obamacare
But these ER visits resulted in insurance payments to the hospitals rather than hospitals getting stiffed by those without insurance. See the difference? The point is not whether one goes to the ER but whether one goes to the ER and has insurance to cover one's ER expenses.
 
Old 11-26-2016, 10:32 AM
 
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ER's aren't being paid now. Those who go to ER's go in large part because they can't afford the deductibles and co-pays and a doctor will turn you away without them.


Ah.....not really. You got any statistics to back up your erroneous statement?

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Before West Virginia adopted Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Care Act, many hospitals were struggling with uncompensated care.

Uncompensated care, the health care services provided to patients who are either unable or unwilling to pay, reached $692.27 million in West Virginia in 2013.

The following year, after Medicaid expansion was enacted, the state's uncompensated care dropped 38.3 percent to $427.44 million.

Because more residents received health care coverage, hospitals could bill Medicaid for their services.
Rural hospitals, clinics likely to suffer if Obamacare repealed | News | register-herald.com
 
Old 11-26-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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Ours is a rural hospital, and Obamacare has had little impact on profits. Medicaid expansion did provide for fewer no payers, but also lower reimbursements. Net about zero. Of course other locales may find different results.
 
Old 11-26-2016, 10:55 AM
 
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20 million people could lose their insurance. The uninsured often end up in emergency rooms, the most expensive option for receiving health care and one that taxes hospital budgets.

Local hospitals hold hikes to 4 percent and under, fear blow if Obamacare is scrapped | Local | lacrossetribune.com
It's pretty neat how getting rid of Obamacare would cause 20 million people to lose their insurance when Obamacare didn't insure 20 million people. Is that the new maths?
 
Old 11-26-2016, 11:06 AM
 
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Ah.....not really. You got any statistics to back up your erroneous statement?
How many do you want?

She has health insurance, but can't pay her medical bills. She's not alone. | 89.3 KPCC

Dilemma over deductibles: Costs crippling middle class

Many people with health coverage can’t afford to use it | NewsCut | Minnesota Public Radio News

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us...he-doctor.html


Taxes were raised to fund Medicare for that part that they are picking up or are we just burying it further in a debt hole which is going to come due?
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