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Do you think an entrenched oligarchy would pass laws that increase competition for them by strengthening anti-trust legislation?
Okay, you're right. Let's just put the government in control of everything. Let's not even bother with elections. Let's scrap our entire system and go with the rest of the world. After all, they are so much better off than we are.
I'm saying, if you read my post, that the 'system' is not the problem. We have the best 'system' in the world. Yes, there are some unscrupulous individuals. But we don't want to scrap the 'system' and thereby punish everybody.
Do you consider a system where a handful of billionaires pick which candidates are "viable" and bankroll the elected representatives? Is this democracy? Or oligarchy?
Billionaires rule for one and the only reason - critical numbers of the commoners envision themselves in their place and those folks are willing to stand neck deep in the oligarchical sewage to have a chance on joining the fleecing class. It makes no sense to inconvenience and burden top 1% + if you plan your meteoric rise to join the guys.
Anyhow, we should insist on knowing Trump' net worth to figure out his ROI on the presidency in 4 years. The fact that it is not an issue for the right just tell that those guys are ok with monarchy/dictatorship/oligarchy whatever system where it's impolite and dangerous to ask the anointed rulers that question, there is no money too big to secure their heaven inspired leadership. But rest assured, the right leaning folks, given an opportunity, would do full audit of $100 worth of foodstamps, what is allowed to jupiter is not allowed to the bull.
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its a little more nuanced than that , in the 1950,s , the usa was far and away the leader in every industrial and scientific field...
That was before Liberals destroyed the education system and while most of the developed world was still recovering from WW II.
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yet the gap between what workers and CEO,s earn was a fraction of what it is today , there is a place in between socialism and a situation where the top 1% see the bulk of gains
Very little has changed.
The average hourly wage for a CEO in the US $106.11/hour or $220,700 annually.
You focus only on compensation for the Fortune 500 CEOs, which represents about 2.5% of all business/corporate CEOs.
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everything changed after the election of 1980
Actually, everything changed in the 1970s when sports figures and entertainers starting getting paid $Million salaries, but never mind reality.
You have four years to think about it and come up with a solution. Run Hillary again pleaaaaaaaase
Well you had 8 years to come up with someone and the best was THIS turd?? He didn't even get the popular vote. Did you have those smilies the past 8 years? I bet it was
Those might be only smiles you'll have going forward-unless you're one of those that only has theirs due to a rigged game in their favor-probably why you're all jolly now. Sad is the man that cant win with a level playing field.
So far Trump has stated that he will only take a $1 salary and give the rest to charity. He is working though problems that could expose any conflict of interest and it will not be easy. The Clintons left the WH broke and now are worth well over $100,000,000. The Clintons never spoke out against special interest and lobbyist - they love the Pay to Play system.
Until he takes office all you or me can do is speculate. The problem with our Presidential election is that we would never even get any chance to run; we don't have the funds. Trump got that chance because he did have the funds to fight the system. Heck; he had richer billionaires fighting him at every turn - like Soros. Now you are playing sour grapes because he is rich; if he wasn't he would be on the outside, like us, looking in!
Just admit that the rich are just smarter and better than the commoners and are nature's true chosen ones - the output of economic Darwinism; the winners. We should just give them the ruling authority and let them do what is best for us.
That way we can end up like any other third-world nation.
Sad thing is-you already ARE like that. I can;t believe the TRumpers here actually believe that he'll do all those great things he promised. They sure called out Obama on that, but give Pumpkin Man a pass
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