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What they need to do is drop the requirement for 60 votes opting for the simpler majority vote. With 51 votes you get what you want.
Give me one good reason republicans shouldn't go nuclear. The nuclear or constitutional option is a parliamentary procedure that allows the U.S. Senate to override a rule or precedent by a simple majority of 51 votes, instead of by a supermajority of 60 votes.
This way the republicans can simply ignore democrats telling them to go chop wood or whatever else they want to do.
Oh, I got this idea from Vice Presidential contender Tim Kaine who, on October 28, 2016, sternly warned republicans that democrats would use the nuclear option... and tough garbage if they didn't like it!
"If these guys think guys think they are going to stonewall the filling of that vacancy, or other vacancies, then a Democratic Senate majority will say we're not going to let you thwart the law," he told The Huffington Post.
Why should any republican allow democrats to stonewall?
Of course, this was when Kaine thought they had a 99% lock on the election.
So my question is what would be wrong if Trump and his republicans followed the exact same path?
I'm fully on board with them using the nuclear option. I don't want to give Republicans any outs for their vision of America. Get rid of everything that gets in the way of their cut & spend philosophy, anti-labor, pro-1% philosophy. I want these next few years to be the great Republican experiment.
well, I have mixed feelings about this. George Washington once said the House makes the tea and the Senate cools it.
I believe that an efficient government is a dictatorial government. The Senate's slower approach that requires consensus prevents the passage of bad law, even when it also prevents the passage of some good law.
This past president is a good case study. Mr. Obama would have taken the country even further to the left had the senate just been another branch like the House. Instead, the inefficiency of the Senate cooled things. I don't want to lose that.
However, there are some things that the democrats did where they bi-passed the cloture rule. In those things, righting the ship is the most important thing. There is no reason to hold to 60 votes where the dems didn't.
Obama care's replacement should not require 60 votes, has the dems bi-passed it. on Judges, the dems bi-passed it.
Already discussing the nuclear option is an overreach, there may be a good reason down the road but it needs to be a very good reason.
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Mr. McConnell is what is known on Capitol Hill as an institutionalist, a strong believer in the traditions and practices of the Senate. He was very critical of the decision by Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic leader, who is retiring this year, to rally his party into limiting filibusters against nominees in response to Republican delaying tactics.
Mr. McConnell has said repeatedly that it is crucial to American democracy to respect the special rights of the minority party in the Senate, and that it would be a mistake to limit the filibuster, since the decision could backfire if his party fell out of power.
“I don’t think we should act as if we’re going to be in the majority forever,” he said
The 60 vote requirement should have been dropped long ago. This isn't a (R) or (D) thing. I said the same thing when the (D)'s used and said then that they would regret it.
One should be able to still exercise a proper filibuster though.
Already discussing the nuclear option is an overreach, there may be a good reason down the road but it needs to be a very good reason.
AFAIK the rule change exists until the ruling party decides to change it back. The Republicans only need simple majority for any appointment excluding SCOTUS. These are the rules as set in motion by Democrats.
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